:e4e: I have cm's book. It's interesting, to say the least. But do you see where I'm going with the Open View/MAD connection? I may be missing something, being to theology what Jethro was to ballet, but it seems to me to be predicated in part on God's plans being altered instead of followed, implying a limiting of knowledge or a thwarting of His will. Again, admittedly, it's early in the day in terms of my study. :idunno: