You Must be Born Again by the Word of God

beloved57

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Salvation is a FREE GIFT from God, not an imposition. Go cannot and will not impose salvation on anyone.
False teaching. The Gift is reckoned upon people within the mind of God. It has nothing to do with forcing, or even offering it for acceptance or rejection, that isn't what a Gift is in scripture when it comes to Salvation blessings, that is a evil invention of carnal men!

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Robert Pate

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False teaching. The Gift is reckoned upon people within the mind of God. It has nothing to do with forcing, or even offering it for acceptance or rejection, that isn't what a Gift is in scripture when it comes to Salvation blessings, that is a evil invention of carnal men!

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If God imposed salvation on some, but not all, he would be unjust.

Salvation is a gift from God that can only be received, John 1:12.
 

beloved57

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I saw above, everything that you say is contrary to the word of God.

You have not received Christ as your savior, nor have you been born again by the Gospel.
Okay. The Gift is given, not offered. Men believe on Christ, or receive Him after they're born again In 1:13!

Men in the flesh can't believe on or receive Christ because they can't please God Rom 8:8!

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Robert Pate

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Okay. The Gift is given, not offered. Men believe on Christ, or receive Him after they're born again In 1:13!

Men in the flesh can't believe on or receive Christ because they can't please God Rom 8:8!

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Those that are in the flesh are the lost. They have not received Christ as their savior. But they can be saved because, "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" which is the Gospel. Romans 10:17.
 

beloved57

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Those that are in the flesh are the lost. They have not received Christ as their savior. But they can be saved because, "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" which is the Gospel. Romans 10:17.
Right, you can't please God until you are saved.

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TulipBee

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Pate is like Trump. Both are stubborn and starting Armageddon. That's when Jesus comes with a palmface and slaps them awake. They will be VERY aware for talking dangerously and foolish. They might bow and fall on thier knees in lighting speed and enter the heaven gates anyway but may never forget they lead many to hell.
 

Robert Pate

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Pate is like Trump. Both are stubborn and starting Armageddon. That's when Jesus comes with a palmface and slaps them awake. They will be VERY aware for talking dangerously and foolish. They might bow and fall on thier knees in lighting speed and enter the heaven gates anyway but may never forget they lead many to hell.


Trump Has done more for this country in one week than Obama has in 8 years.
 

TulipBee

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Trump Has done more for this country in one week than Obama has in 8 years.
OP sent many to hell in one week than devil has in 8,000 years.

Free will carried many a soul to hell, but never a soul to heaven. -Charles Spurgeon, a Baptist

All the devil has to to is borrow the OP till judgment day.
 

Robert Pate

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OP sent many to hell in one week than devil has in 8,000 years.

Free will carried many a soul to hell, but never a soul to heaven. -Charles Spurgeon, a Baptist

All the devil has to to is borrow the OP till judgment day.

You have a warped, perverted, unbiblical view of God and his Son Jesus Christ, that will probably lead to your destruction.
 

TulipBee

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Using "probably" all the time means you're not sure if the Calvinists are wrong. Holy Spirit does the convictions and never fails.
 

Robert Pate

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Using "probably" all the time means you're not sure if the Calvinists are wrong. Holy Spirit does the convictions and never fails.

No, it means that God's grace is unfathomable. Even though you believe that God is unjust, there is a slim chance that you might be saved anyway, by the grace of God.
 

Nanja

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No, it means that God's grace is unfathomable.


God's Grace was only given to His Election of Grace before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9.

All the rest are the seed of the serpent which have been prepared for destruction Rom. 9:22.
 

Robert Pate

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God's Grace was only given to His Election of Grace before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9.

All the rest are the seed of the serpent which have been prepared for destruction Rom. 9:22.


HOGWASH!

God has provided a savior for the whole world, 1 John 2:2, but NOTHING is yours if you don't receive it, John 1:12.
 

Bright Raven

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HOGWASH!

God has provided a savior for the whole world, 1 John 2:2, but NOTHING is yours if you don't receive it, John 1:12.

B57 and Nanja have rejected Him

John 1:11 King James Version (KJV)

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
 

Nanja

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HOGWASH!

God has provided a savior for the whole world, 1 John 2:2, but NOTHING is yours if you don't receive it, John 1:12.


Christ did not die for all men without exception; but for the world of men chosen in Christ to have remission of sins before the foundation of the world Eph. 1:4-7, jew and gentile from all nations of the world, for whom God's wrath was appeased by Christ's Death for them.


Then there is also a world of men whom Christ did not die for, which were already condemned and shall remain permanently under the God's Wrath. They are those who shall never believe the Gospel of God's Grace by Election because they are already condemned John 3:18, 36!

2 Cor. 4:3-4
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Rev. 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


John 3:27
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.


The Gospel is hid from you because you are Lost 2 Cor. 4:3-4!
 

Robert Pate

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Christ did not die for all men without exception; but for the world of men chosen in Christ to have remission of sins before the foundation of the world Eph. 1:4-7, jew and gentile from all nations of the world, for whom God's wrath was appeased by Christ's Death for them.


Then there is also a world of men whom Christ did not die for, which were already condemned and shall remain permanently under the God's Wrath. They are those who shall never believe the Gospel of God's Grace by Election because they are already condemned John 3:18, 36!

2 Cor. 4:3-4
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Rev. 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


John 3:27
John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.


The Gospel is hid from you because you are Lost 2 Cor. 4:3-4!

You don't believe the Bible because the bible refutes your Calvinist God.

Jesus is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9.
 

Nanja

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You don't believe the Bible because the bible refutes your Calvinist God.

Jesus is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. Salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9.

I just showed you, by authority of the scriptures, how that Christ has not died for all of mankind without exception, but you are prevented from believing the Truth John 8:44; and all by God's Design 2 Cor. 4:3-4.
 
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