elohiym
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It means women can take advantage of unwary men and get them sent to prison when they did nothing wrong.
No, it doesn't.
It means women can take advantage of unwary men and get them sent to prison when they did nothing wrong.
I am inclined to believe that justice should be reserved for *actual* criminals.
I mean ... can you imagine the conversation.
"Hon, don't take this personally ... it's not that I don't love you, but you are a repulsive toad. Allow me to get drunk, pass out unconscious and then you may have me!".
:shocked:
"People deserve whatever I say they deserve."
That's what most of us call "justice".
:chuckle:
Interestingly, not even that implausible scenario meets the DOJ definition of rape.
Do you wish for me again to make an enumeration of the different senses of "deserve"?
Yes, do it again.
It's like the word "reward". Reward is used as a positive or a negative.
2 Timothy 4:14
Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
Psalm 103:10
He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
Ezra 9:13
And after all that is come upon us for our evil deeds, and for our great trespass, seeing that thou our God hast punished us less than our iniquities deserve, and hast given us such deliverance as this;
It means women can take advantage of unwary men and get them sent to prison when they did nothing wrong.
:thumb:No, it doesn't.
Ok. Once again, an enumeration of the senses of "deserve."
1. "Deserve" in the strict sense implies what is due according to justice.
2. Again, "deserve" can indicate poetic justice.
3. Again, "deserve" can indicate a linking together of apparent cause and effect. Thus, if I close my eyes and run straight ahead at full speed, I "deserve" to run into a brick wall. "I had it coming" and "I should have known better."
The DOJ definition changed from "against her will" to "without the consent of the victim.” Now rape is not limited to women in the definition; now a victim can be a man. The definition still means against her will because that is what "without the consent of the victim” means. You are the one who doesn't realize the implications of the change, you arrogant schmuck.
No, it doesn't.
Implies consent. That's not rape according to the DOJ definition.
And like the word deserve, always implies a sense of justice.
Supports my claim.
Supports my claim.
Supports my claim in the OP.
Thanks!
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How do you figure?
Your going to have to show how it supports your claim.
Implies consent. That's not rape according to the DOJ definition.
I read nothing in the definition that claimed you had to be 100% sober to consent. Only that you had to be able to consent, in whatever state you were in.
I haven't explained it enough already?
there's nothing in that link to state what the determinant would be, so i assumed it would be tied to DWI regulations - that's the way they've done it in the past in my state
iow, those nights that I was the designated driver and we went out and she had fun having a few glasses of wine and we came home and she was frisky, I was guilty of rape for allowing her to force herself on me
... a woman can send an innocent man to prison.
The definition still means against her will because that is what "without the consent of the victim” means.