beloved57
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So Christ obedience isn't important to u and what it accomplished.
Why the Religious Will Perish with the Unbelievers
- Thread starter Robert Pate
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So Christ obedience isn't important to u and what it accomplished.
God's Truth
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Because Christ obeyed, you have someone to obey.
beloved57
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You think very little of Christ obedience and what it accomplished.
The blind leading the blind.
"Therefore as by the offense of one (Adam) judgment came upon ALL MEN to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one (Christ) THE FREE GIFT came upon ALL MEN unto justification of life" Romans 5:18.
There it is right in your face.
Nanja
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Rom. 5:18 can't apply to all men without exception.
What about the world that remains under God's condemnation and wrath John 3:18, 36?
So the ALL MEN of Rom. 5:18 applies exclusively to the Election of Grace Rom. 11:5 whether jew or gentile; Chosen of the Father in Union with Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and without blame before Him in love; and to have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:4-7.
So Justification of Life for these Elect of God has nothing to do with their own believing or anything else they do, but based solely upon the obedience of Christ on their behalf Rom. 5:19!
God's Truth
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Everyone everywhere having to obey Jesus is little?
God's Truth
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Robert Pate, you are his half sibling.
You are more like him than not.
You both are the blind leading the blind.
You both speak of how not to obey.
If I were to be saved according to the two of you, I would have to repent for obeying Jesus.
God's Truth
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Something great happens if you do.
Epoisses
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Yea, you fall from grace and make ship-wreck of your faith like the Pharisees.
beloved57
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U also think little of Christ death since u teach them He died for are lost anyway!
beloved57
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You have no regard for Christ obedience and what it accomplished!
beloved57
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You have more regard for the will of man over the precious obedience of the Lord Jesus Christ which makes many Righteous Rom 5:19
You are not one of the many that will be made righteous by the obedience of Christ. You have sold your birth right to John Calvin.
beloved57
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You glory in mans freewill as your saviour !
Everyone has a freewill. it is a natural human attribute that we are all born with. God did not create a bunch of dumb robots like you want to believe. Who do you think wrote this? I wrote this and I wrote it with my own free will.
glorydaz
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If you were to be saved, it wouldn't be by repenting or obeying any commandments, but by believing.
Which, as I've told you many a time is known as the obedience of faith.
Believing (faith) is the "obeying" God requires from His creatures.
Doing what you're told....Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
glorydaz
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Sure, you get all stoked up with PRIDE, and flaunt it before everyone you see.
I obey. :banana:
I OBEY EVERYTHING. :banana:
Good point. If a person doesn't murder he falls from grace, right?