Hate to give you a history lesson, but Soviet Russia lost far more men than all the other allies combined.
Why America Loves War
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And the largest, by far, ethnic group in the USA
The last war on American soil was the Civil War, so citizens have developed a false sense of security that wars can be fought "at arms length" with a minimum of casualties and few disruptions or personal sacrifices!
Even American casualties in WW1 and WW2 were relatively light when compared to those of other nations.
Even American casualties in WW1 and WW2 were relatively light when compared to those of other nations.
they weren't fighting for freedom
Quincy
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I don't think people love war, no one wants their child to die, no one wants to spend unfathomable amounts of resources, at least no one sane. There may be some glory hounds out there but we can't paint that onto everyone else. What people love is having a world that isn't boring to them. I think most people want a peaceful world but can't deal with the reality of that. If mankind becomes peaceful, if there are no evil republicans, crazy liberals, crooked car salesmen, satanic world powers, desert-dwelling blood thirsty scrubs, etc etc then what do you have? You go to work, come home, face the family and have real conversations about what's going on in everyone's life directly and you go watch Wheel of Fortune and wonder how the heck those two hosts haven't changed at all over the last 80 years 
lain: . Most people don't want to arrive at the end of the day and face that, drama of an extreme nature is needed to give life meaning.
You know what I did yesterday? I changed my daughter's diapers, fed her and worked on my youtube channel. That was a great day. I wish everyday could be that, I don't want anything bad to happen and I'd prefer nothing occur that could change things, good or bad. I don't know why people are so addicted to drama and have to have that foreboding shadow over life but they do. You thinking the US is a warmongering, bloodthirsty nation of violence fits right into that. There is more good that goes on here than you give credit to.
To be frank, I think you're overdoing it, PureX. America isn't as blood thirsty as you think. War is an atrocity, a man-made disaster that happens when a group steps over the line and starts creating violence and chaos in the world. You might think the US is awash in war culture, but more times than not, we are the ones who stand up to instigators. From the nazis to ISIS, if none of these groups were to ever exist we wouldn't have as much war as we do. If we wanted, if we had the mindset groups like those do, with our military we could easily obliterate almost any other nation on earth. We would have done it long ago. We haven't though, so my advice is to carefully consider what is human nature and then direct your argument toward the real issue, mankind's inability to find meaning to life without drama.
lain: . Most people don't want to arrive at the end of the day and face that, drama of an extreme nature is needed to give life meaning.You know what I did yesterday? I changed my daughter's diapers, fed her and worked on my youtube channel. That was a great day. I wish everyday could be that, I don't want anything bad to happen and I'd prefer nothing occur that could change things, good or bad. I don't know why people are so addicted to drama and have to have that foreboding shadow over life but they do. You thinking the US is a warmongering, bloodthirsty nation of violence fits right into that. There is more good that goes on here than you give credit to.
To be frank, I think you're overdoing it, PureX. America isn't as blood thirsty as you think. War is an atrocity, a man-made disaster that happens when a group steps over the line and starts creating violence and chaos in the world. You might think the US is awash in war culture, but more times than not, we are the ones who stand up to instigators. From the nazis to ISIS, if none of these groups were to ever exist we wouldn't have as much war as we do. If we wanted, if we had the mindset groups like those do, with our military we could easily obliterate almost any other nation on earth. We would have done it long ago. We haven't though, so my advice is to carefully consider what is human nature and then direct your argument toward the real issue, mankind's inability to find meaning to life without drama.
Aimiel
Well-known member
Amen. :thumb:
What were "black" Americans who couldn't vote and lived in a "Jim Crow" south or "oriental" Americans with families forced into interment camps fighting for?
"Chrysostom" is indulging in a little "revisionist" history!
WW1 started in 1914, but America didn't enter until 1917, after the Zimmerman Telegram.
WW2 started in 1939, but the US didn't enter until the end of 1941 - after Japan and Gerrnany forced her in!
America didn't fight these wars to save the world - she had no choice!
WW1 - casualties as a % of population
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Australia 1.38%
Canada 0.9%
India 0.02%
New Zealand 1.64%
Newfoundland 0.79%
South Africa 0.16%
United Kingdom (and Colonies) 2.2%
Belgium 1.95%
France 4.39%
Greece 3.67%
Italy 3.49%
Empire of Japan to 0.01%
Montenegro 2.67%
Portugal 1.49%
Romania 8.88%
Russian Empire 1.94% ]
Serbia 27.78%
United States 0.13%
Austria-Hungary 4.05%
Bulgaria 3.41%
German Empire 4.32%
Ottoman Empire 15.36%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties
WW2 - casualties as a % of population
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Albania 2.81%
Australia 0.57%
Austria 5.7%
Belgium 0.05%
Brazil 0.02%
Bulgaria 0.38%
Burma (British) 1.69%
Canada 0.40%
China 3.86%
Czechoslovakia 3.15%
DenmarkL 0.08%
Dutch East Indies 5.76%
Estonia 4.44%
Ethiopia 0.6%
Finland 2.62%
France 1.35%
French Indochina 8.1%
Germany (within 1937 borders) 10.0%
Ethnic Germans from other nations 9.7 to 19.4%
Greece 11.2%
Hungary 6.35%
India (British) 0.68%
Italy 1.03%
Japan 4.37%
Korea (Japanese Colony) 2.06%
Latvia 11.78%
Lithuania (within 1939 borders) 14.33%
Malaya (British) 2.28%
Malta (British) 0.56%
Mongolia 0.04%
Netherlands 3.45%
Newfoundland (British) 0.03%
New Zealand 0.73%
Norway 0.32%
Papua and New Guinea (Australian) 1.17%
Philippines (U.S. Territory) 6.6%
Poland (within 1939 borders) 16.7%
Romania (within 1939 borders) 4.01%
South Africa 0.12%
Soviet Union (within 1939 borders) 14.2%
Thailand 0.04%
United Kingdom 0.94%
United States 0.32%
Yugoslavia 11.00%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
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Speaking of blinders! You have lapped up all of the liberal, biased rhetoric which now leaves you bloated with partial truths and innuendoes.
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I wouldn't call it revisionist history as much as spinning our role in the war in an exalted patriotic light. Not too uncommon a tactic.
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- blinders
- liberal, biased rhetoric
- bloated
- partial truths
- innuendoes
Perhaps "bybee" would care to deal in specifics!
I notice that "chrysostom," for obvious reasons, chooses not to challenge me on the facts!
we should thank purex for this thread
never before has a thread shown clearly where some are coming from
these people
along with the feminists, the unionists, and the teachers are what is keeping the democratic party going
and most of the lawyers
never before has a thread shown clearly where some are coming from
these people
along with the feminists, the unionists, and the teachers are what is keeping the democratic party going
and most of the lawyers
They haven't heard of Matthew 5:43-48 in the Catholic Church?