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[Town Heretic]

you said your church was using the westminster confession
and
mock said that is what the calvinists use

what was I to think?

That if you wanted to know how closely I was aligned with a particular you should ask. I mean, you noted early disagreements with me and at least one Calvinist who referred to me as his Arminian friend and you hold at least one position dramatically outside of your own church dogma.

Given those two I'd say you should either read me (I've talked about will, recently in fact) or ask.

If, instead, you chose to credit me with a belief you don't like you should perhaps wonder why that was your go to.

 

[chrysostom]

That if you wanted to know how closely I was aligned with a particular you should ask..

I did
and
you said you went to a church that used the westminster confession

did you know the calvinists use it?

I didn't

 

[Town Heretic]

I did

I remember telling you I belonged to the Presbyterian church.

and
you said you went to a church that used the westminster confession

Sure. And you go to a church that teaches against reincarnation. So I'd say it's pretty clear we both stray from particular dogma. I went over that a moment ago. Odd how you left it out...like you didn't even consider it.

 

[chrysostom]

I remember telling you I belonged to the Presbyterian church.

Sure. And you go to a church that teaches against reincarnation. So I'd say it's pretty clear we both stray from particular dogma. I went over that a moment ago. Odd how you left it out...like you didn't even consider it.

so you want to talk about reincarnation again?
I showed the the three bible passages
and
you were not impressed
but
you didn't show how the good news would reach everyone

 

[Town Heretic]

so you want to talk about reincarnation again?

I was fairly plain in why I mentioned it. To note that assuming that anyone who attends any church is in complete accord with every point of dogma is something your own experience should speak against.

 

[chrysostom]

I was fairly plain in why I mentioned it. To note that assuming that anyone who attends any church is in complete accord with every point of dogma is something your own experience should speak against.

I am well aware that some of my beliefs are at odds with the church
and
I am well aware that you need to remind the others that I am a heretic

 

[Town Heretic]

I am well aware that some of my beliefs are at odds with the church

Then all the more reason to ask instead of assume with others, which is the point I've been trying to get you to see while you make this about anything but that.

and
I am well aware that you need to remind the others that I am a heretic

No, but when you go from asking to insinuating and transform inquiry into a less than up front personal attack I'm going to remind you.

 

[chrysostom]

Then all the more reason to ask instead of assume with others, which is the point I've been trying to get you to see while you make this about anything but that.


No, but when you go from asking to insinuating and transform inquiry into a less than up front personal attack I'm going to remind you.

my job is to ask
and
insinuating must be yours

 

[Town Heretic]

my job is to ask

Of course it isn't. That's just a goofy way of saying you enjoy it.

and
insinuating must be yours

I think I've been pretty clear. I suppose you might find my simply calling you a hypocrite preferable, but I'd rather note the disparity and provoke you into self examination, presuming you care about that sort of disparity. But for you, the king of all things inferential to try that with me is really just...amazingly funny.


So instead of noting that you hold others to a different standard, that you give yourself a designation even as you differ markedly, in a way that would have your own church call you a thing I don't believe I ever have, you declare your bias, assume the negative you can even when you have reason not to, provided those you're marking are people you simply don't care for...if that's your job you should consider collecting unemployment and finding a new trade.

 

[chrysostom]

my job is to ask
and
insinuating must be yours

I suppose you might find my simply calling you a hypocrite preferable, but

are you insinuating that I am a hypocrite?

 

[chrysostom]

my job is to ask
and
insinuating must be yours

So instead of noting that you hold others to a different standard, that you

are you insinuating that I hold others to a different standard?

 

[Town Heretic]

are you insinuating that I am a hypocrite?

This is part of your problem, chrys. You don't appear to be interested in applying that scrutiny and suspicion of yours to your own actions. So you dodge and try to turn the focus, as you did with lmohm. As you're doing here.

So you feel fit to judge the religious life of others, to insinuate your judgment while holding yourself above that same examination.

Then you don't have to answer on the difference between how you approach you and how you approach others. No, you can do this instead. I remember when you said you weren't here to answer questions. Remarkable thing to say.

are you insinuating that I hold others to a different standard?

lain:

 

[chrysostom]

I remember when you said you weren't here to answer questions.

but I do
more than anyone I know here
if
I really said that
it was connected to my saying
that
I am here to ask questions
and
you know I do that better than anyone here

 

[Town Heretic]

but I do
more than anyone I know here
if
I really said that
it was connected to my saying
that
I am here to ask questions

"I wasn't there, your honor, but if I was I didn't do it, or if I did it I was justifed, or if I wasn't someone made me..."

You may want to be here to question others, but when you do your own actions, motives and foundation is up for that very thing.

and
you know I do that better than anyone here

I think you may believe that, may not see any hubris in it, which is likely part of the problem. But no, I don't think you're better at asking questions than a number here, in part because you lack the training and/or inclination to free your inquiry from your emotions and because lacking that your inquiry begins from a point of bias often as not that drives your questions, sometimes requiring you to dismiss the answers to sustain itself.

 

[Rusha]

but I do
more than anyone I know here
if
I really said that
it was connected to my saying
that
I am here to ask questions
and
you know I do that better than anyone here

No, you don't really *answer* direct questions. When people do answer your questions, you pretend they didn't OR intentionally misrepresent their answer/stance.

 

[chrysostom]

yes
I do a better job of answering questions

here are some of the answers I get to the questions I ask

I already answered that
why do you want to know
answer my question first
a quote from the bible
it means just what it says
a catholic won't understand
what do you mean by ______
it depends on your definition
you are an idiot
you are a moron
you are a catholic
you are a papist
you worship idols
you pray to mary
you are a misogynist
you are a liar

that is all I can think of for now

 

[resodko]

This is part of your problem, chrys.

what makes you think he has a problem?


perhaps what you meant to say was:

This is part of the problem I have with you, chrys.

 

[chrysostom]

what makes you think he has a problem?

now that is a good question

looking forward to the answer

btw welcome back

how long can you stay?

 

[resodko]

yes
I do a better job of answering questions

here are some of the answers I get to the questions I ask

I already answered that
why do you want to know
answer my question first
a quote from the bible
it means just what it says
a catholic won't understand
what do you mean by ______
it depends on your definition
you are an idiot
you are a moron
you are a catholic
you are a papist
you worship idols
you pray to mary
you are a misogynist
you are a liar

that is all I can think of for now

well, you are a misogynist

 

[chrysostom]

well, you are a misogynist

you didn't answer my question