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You really don't know what God revealed to Paul?Like what so we can talk about it.
If Paul was just "another apostle", why didn't God just have him join the others?There is nothing tiny about what I said.
You really don't know what God revealed to Paul?Like what so we can talk about it.
If Paul was just "another apostle", why didn't God just have him join the others?There is nothing tiny about what I said.
Of course I do. God gave the SAME one and only gospel, the GREATEST gospel, Jesus Christ, which is reconciliation to God.You really don't know what God revealed to Paul?
If Paul was just "another apostle", why didn't God just have him join the others?
Paul says that God gave HIM a dispensation of the gospel. Paul called that gospel MY GOSPEL three times in scripture.Of course I do. God gave the SAME one and only gospel, the GREATEST gospel, Jesus Christ, which is reconciliation to God.
Paul agreed with Peter, John and James to keep his ministry separate from theirs. Why would they agree to that for the "one true gospel"?What do you mean just join the others?
Jesus was an apostle. Heb 3:1. You don't actually know what apostle means.An apostle is someone taught directly from Jesus.
:duh:Paul was taught directly from Jesus.
Paul attempted to get unbelieving Jews to believe his gospel.Paul taught the Jews like the other apostles, but the Jews who would hear Paul preach or hear about him, they thought he was just trying to trick them so that he can throw them in prison if they showed interest or belief in Jesus.
The natural man means someone who ONLY wants to please their flesh. We are not only flesh, we are spirit too, and some people care about what is spiritual and they do NOT only want to please their flesh.
Those who only want to please their flesh with sin are NOT going to want to give up doing that, so they say what Jesus says is foolishness.
Paul says that God gave HIM a dispensation of the gospel.
So what?! He also calls it Jesus' and God's and OURS. I call it my gospel. Since I call it MY GOSPEL, are you going to get upset and call me something now for it? So you think that Paul is exalting himself by calling it his gospel?! Think about it some more.Paul called that gospel MY GOSPEL three times in scripture.
Do you think that Paul was arrogant? Was Paul confused?
Or, perhaps, Paul was exactly correct.
Paul agreed with Peter, John and James to keep his ministry separate from theirs. Why would they agree to that for the "one true gospel"?
How in the world do you think that changes anything that I said? An apostle is just about being THE FIRST, and being taught directly from GOD.Jesus was an apostle. Heb 3:1. You don't actually know what apostle means.
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Paul attempted to get unbelieving Jews to believe his gospel.
The natural man is the unregenerated man in the flesh.
Good grief, the twelve apostles were preaching the gospel of the kingdom (i.e., the one that Christ gave to THEM) for about three years and YET they did not even know that Christ had to die.Good grief, all the apostles had to dispense the gospel, the one and only gospel that saves.
You always throw in vague and irrelevant comments.No one and nothing is greater than Jesus Christ and his coming and what he taught.
Again an illogical non-sequitur.So what?! He also calls it Jesus' and God's and OURS.
No, I don't think "that Paul is exalting himself by calling it his gospel". I think that Paul was telling the TRUTH that he received A GOSPEL from God.I call it my gospel. Since I call it MY GOSPEL, are you going to get upset and call me something now for it? So you think that Paul is exalting himself by calling it his gospel?! Think about it some more.
No, I think that he was telling the TRUTH.YEAH YOU MUST THINK he is arrogant!
Deny the facts of the Bible if you like. It's your choice.There is only one gospel and JESUS CAME AND TAUGHT it for everyone.
For about THREE years the apostles were preaching the gospel of the kingdom and YET they did not know that Christ would die.No kidding. Just as the other apostles did.
Good grief, the twelve apostles were preaching the gospel of the kingdom (i.e., the one that Christ gave to THEM) for about three years and YET they did not even know that Christ had to die.
THEREFORE, they clearly were NOT preaching His death for SIN and His resurrection. And YET that is exactly what Paul preached!
No, I do not, and you are the one who does that.You always throw in vague and irrelevant comments.
Again an illogical non-sequitur.
No, I don't think "that Paul is exalting himself by calling it his gospel". I think that Paul was telling the TRUTH that he received A GOSPEL from God.
No, I think that he was telling the TRUTH.
Deny the facts of the Bible if you like. It's your choice.
For about THREE years the apostles were preaching the gospel of the kingdom and YET they did not know that Christ would die.
Even AFTER His resurrection, they did not understand that He would be resurrected.John 20:3-10 (AKJV/PCE)
(20:3) Peter therefore went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the sepulchre. (20:4) So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre. (20:5) And he stooping down, [and looking in], saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in. (20:6) Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, (20:7) And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. (20:8) Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed. (20:9) For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead. (20:10) Then the disciples went away again unto their own home.
So how were the twelve preaching the "one true gospel" if the did not even know that Christ would die and be resurrected?
He did and they did NOT understand, It was HIDDEN from them.Jesus TAUGHT HE HAD TO DIE. Stop saying they didn't know.
He did and they did NOT understand, It was HIDDEN from them.
NOTE: This teaching of Jesus came at the VERY END of His life.
The twelve were preaching the gospel of the kingdom for YEARS before Jesus told them about His impending death. They were NOT preaching His death for sin that entire time as THEY DID NOT KNOW.
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The book to the HEBREWS was written to the same church as Stephen mentions in Acts 7:38. That "church" is ISRAEL and not the body of Christ.
Luke 24:8 Then they remembered his words.
John 2:22
After He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this. Then they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken.
You can't get around it.
Once again, the TWELVE did not learn that He would die until very near the END of His LIFE.Right Divider
Jesus IS THE LAMB.
Lamb's blood was shed for the forgiveness of sins.
Jesus is the Lamb of God.
That was preached since John the baptizer.
The LAMB of God for the forgiveness of sins TO THE WORLD.
Once again, the TWELVE did not learn that He would die until very near the END of His LIFE.
Luk 18:31-34 KJV Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. (32) For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: (33) And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. (34) And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
And YET, they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom WHILE not knowing that He would DIE.
Luk 9:1-6 KJV Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. (2) And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick. (3) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (4) And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart. (5) And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them. (6) And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.
Do you have any idea how many YEARS passed between Luke 9 and Luke 18?
Once again, the TWELVE did not learn that He would die until very near the END of His LIFE.
Luk 18:31-34 KJV Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. (32) For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: (33) And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. (34) And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
And YET, they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom WHILE not knowing that He would DIE.
Luk 9:1-6 KJV Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. (2) And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick. (3) And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. (4) And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart. (5) And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them. (6) And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.
Do you have any idea how many YEARS passed between Luke 9 and Luke 18?
So AGAIN you will NOT listen to the SCRIPTURE, but instead fall back on your "story".Jesus came and taught how to have forgiveness of sins through him.
He taught how to be put in him.
They could NOT remember something in Luke 9 that they did not even learn until Luke 18.I gave you scriptures that say they remembered.
No. The natural man is a man who lives only to please his flesh.
Not all only live to please their flesh.
So AGAIN you will NOT listen to the SCRIPTURE, but instead fall back on your "story".
They could NOT remember something in Luke 9 that they did not even learn until Luke 18.
You are SO bad.