If it is a long post and not to me then I rarely read what is not meant for me; if you would like me to read what you think about circumcision, you should have answered me in the post I wrote a long time ago asking you about it.
that does explain a lot...
What difference do you think that means.
forcing someone to do something is much different than that person voluntarily doing it...
Paul was dealing with those that were advocating forcing the Gentiles crowding the synagogues every sabbath to circumcision...to force circumcise on them was to bring them into the idea that they had to do something to be saved...a burden that not even Israel could bear...
Why would you ever think that I would believe in circumcision if I do not believe in observing the Sabbath day?
you argue that circumcision was required for salvation...but not after the cross
It was never for salvation but to integrate more fully with Israel...
Gentiles that left Egypt with the exodus were saved...but if they wished to celebrate the Passover too... then they had to be cut...
Again Paul was dealing with Pharisees that argued Gentiles had to get cut to associate and/or be saved...Paul showed they were wrong on both counts...
Prove with scripture that it was just for rabbis.
it's not just for rabbis...but kosher plates pots and pans was instituted by the rabbis...
It is not wrong to celebrate a day.
if it is a day He instituted to celebrate...but celebrating Christmas is just like the Hebrews thinking it wasn't wrong to celebrate their God who brought them out of Egypt with a golden calf...
It just doesn’t make any difference to our salvation,
sabbath does...it is 1/10 the law we are to obey as we seek to please Him and well, it reminds us of our creation Passover and savior...as do the other special days He instituted...they teach us a lot about clean unclean, sin, sacrifice atonement and oh yes why and how and from Who we obtain it...special days He gave us make a big difference...
Celebrating other days He didn't just makes Him jealous...and He calls that idolatry...
UNLESS you think you are obeying God by observing a special day. If you do that, then you have fallen from grace and you are a bitter root who if talks others into it, then you have defiled that person.
Again if it is a day He instituted then you are obeying Him and it is good to talk others into it...
Prove with scripture that the Pharisees accused Jesus of not observing Moses’ other purification works.
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Mark 7:5 Then question him do the Pharisees and the scribes, `Wherefore do thy disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but with unwashed hands do eat the bread?'
See? it wasn't even from Abraham or Moses even... but the elders...their oral traditions...
That was easy...
Give the scripture and tell us where Moses commanded that.
well again...it was the elders' tradition for washing not Moses'...so that is not in scripture...like Sunday ham...not in scripture but from man's traditions...
And OOOPS! I confused this encounter with the Pharisees with another text...this Sabbath eating in the field was upheld with David's eating of the showbread...
Upholding Sabbath's spirit of healing refreshment...
Speak according to the scriptures.
I did. And He said better the Law of God than the tradition of man...it's all right there...and not too long I hope...and written to you if you accept scripture...
You say Sabbath keeping is not the Pharisees tradition, you need to prove that with scripture.
Yah is a Pharisee now?
Oh boy...
Just because they keep the tradition doesn't mean it's theirs...
They did make their own traditions and separating the wheat from the chaff is not easy stuff...ya got to beat the two apart...
