What is going on in Daniel 9?

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Elia

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When you click on the above link you get this verse:

“Know therefore and vnderstand, that from the going foorth of the commandement to restore and to build Ierusalem, vnto the Messiah the Prince, shall be seuen weekes; and threescore and two weekes, the street shall be built againe, and the wall, euen in troublous times.”

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And then click on the link right above here, and you'll see the colon has moved, to include the 62 weeks with the seven, which was originally not the case.

And that is how Christians are deceived by their corrupt Bible translators.



"O Y-H-W-H, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, 'Surely our fathers have inherited lies, worthlessness and unprofitable things.' Will a man make gods for himself, which are not gods?"
Jeremiah 16:19
 

beameup

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When you click on the above link you get this verse:

“Know therefore and vnderstand, that from the going foorth of the commandement to restore and to build Ierusalem, vnto the Messiah the Prince, shall be seuen weekes; and threescore and two weekes, the street shall be built againe, and the wall, euen in troublous times.”

1611 King James Version (KJV)

Viewing the original 1611 KJV with archaic English spelling.

Click to switch to the Standard KJV.

And then click on the link right above here, and you'll see the colon has moved, to include the 62 weeks with the seven, which was originally not the case.

And that is how Christians are deceived by their corrupt Bible translators.

There were no "punctuation" marks in ancient Hebrew.
The message was given verbally to Daniel from the Angel Gabriel.
You simply don't understand ancient Hebrew idioms.
The sentence is after 7 + 62. In otherwords, after a total of 69.

Now, how about telling us about your Messiah that came in 408 B.C., after the 49 years.
What is his name, and what did he do?
 

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Nobody can die for the sin of another. Everybody dies for his own sins.

For your Maker is your husband,
The LORD of hosts is His name;
And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel;
He is called the God of the whole earth.
(Isaiah 54:5)​

So do you believe the husband of the firstborn son is the father of the firstborn? That is against the law of Moses.
 

beameup

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No there are not.

Humans worship the God-Man when he shows up. Joshua bowed down in worship, Abraham bows down when visited by YHWH and two angels. The appearance of the God-Man is throughout the Tanakh. God can do whatever he wants... including becoming clothed in human flesh.
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of YHWH am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant? And the captain of YHWH's host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so. Joshua 5:13-15 Joshua is visited by Yeshua
 

Elia

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There were no "punctuation" marks in ancient Hebrew.
The message was given verbally to Daniel from the Angel Gabriel.
You simply don't understand ancient Hebrew idioms.
The sentence is after 7 + 62. In otherwords, after a total of 69.

Bs"d

And here we have it again, somebody who cannot read Hebrew, telling somebody who can that he "simply doesn't understand ancient Hebrew idioms".

The blind leading the seeing.
 

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My opinion, your all mixed up. Start over with prayer.

So if anybody wants to say that Christ was God, or divine, than he has no choice than to say that Christ was Y-H-W-H, because there simply is no other God than Y-H-W-H.

62nd Week is Reached than ... Times, Time, Half a Time
Y = 62nd Week
H = 7 Weeks (Lamb Slain Jesus) (Three and Half Days of Darkness) (Half a Time is Modified)
W = 69th Week (Two Witnesses Slain) (Times is Modified 62+7)
H = 70th Week (Hundred Fifty Days) (Time is Modified, not Three and Half, but a Hundred Fifty)

LUKE 23:31 For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?
LUKE 23:32 And there were also two other, malefactors, led with him to be put to death.
LUKE 23:33 And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.


Three Days of Darkness = Lamb Slain + Two Witnesses Slain or 62nd Week to 69th Week.............Luke 23:44-45, the 69th Week of Daniel 9 is completed when the "Three Days of Darkness" are completed...............Luke 23:41 talks about "Giving Gifts" to explain the length that God has in view before the 69th Week is Completed. God calls the "Three Days of Darkness, Gift Giving in Revelation 11", this is, "Gift Giving to Death of "Two Witnesses", Hebrews 11:4-5 and Galatians 3:17-19 = "Gift Giving or 62nd Week (430 Years), then "Three Days of Darkness" to Complete the 69th Week, when Two Witnesses are Slain, finally that begins the 70th Week of 150 Days".

Y - H - W - H ... Equation????

Moses = 430 Years = 62nd Week
Jesus = 7 SEALS = 7 Weeks (beginning of Three Days and Half Days of Darkness)
Elias/Elijah = 50 = 69th Week (completion of Three Days and Half of Darkness)
Cloud = Star Wormwood = 70th Week (150 Days of Star Wormwood)

Matthew 17:1-5, explains the 62nd Week of Daniel 9 goes to the 69th Week of Daniel 9 by the space of "Three Days of Darkness" when Jesus the Lamb is Slain, and the "Two Witnesses" are slain. Love and Blessings (That is a Legal Reason to invalidate the "Three Days of Darkness", if God does not kill the "Two Witnesses" before the "Three Days of Darkness" begin, then God will not kill "Jesus the Lamb" to reveal the "Sign of Divorce/Antipas/Antiparticle", however, the Book of Revelation declares that Lamb is slain First, Matthew does not, Mark does not, and Luke does not, so we must keep watch and continue in our pattern of Murder/Suicide to deal with these races of people ... right now we must keep their races on the attack and ensure their kinds use lethal force continually against the Antichrist, until such a time passes, 6/18/2016 to 6/21/2016, until they are deceased, nightly walk tonight, make sure their kinds use lethal force, any level of force will be satisfactory, however if I am convinced lethal force will be used we will go to City Hall in the City of Philadelphia, where the bodies cannot be concealed so readily, many bodies for many witnesses, we need to see what is necessary approaching the next level of whats necessary).
 
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It is really very simple: Your messiah didn't fulfil the messianic prophecies; ergo: He was not the messiah.



Nobody can die for the sin of another. Everybody dies for his own sins.

"O Y-H-W-H, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, 'Surely our fathers have inherited lies, worthlessness and unprofitable things.' Will a man make gods for himself, which are not gods?"
Jeremiah 16:19

Be very careful ~During Tribulation the anti-christ will deceive MANY into believing he is the true messiah, and many will be deceived into following him all the way to hell.

Jesus was the true Messiah, and the reason you cannot receive that truth is because YOU are deceived and living in darkness, sadly.
 

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Background

Complete Equation = "70 x 7" (Daniel 9)
Complete Equation = "1290 to 1335" (Daniel 12)
Complete Equation = "2300" (Daniel 8)

1. 70 Weeks = 62 Weeks (430), 69 Weeks (Three Days and Half of Darkness) (7 Weeks or 62 to 69 is special, Modifier of Time (Three Days and Half)/1 Week or 69th to 70th Week is special Modifier of Time (150 Days of Star Wormwood))
2. 1290 to 1335 = 12210 + 195 Days (1260 Days + 30 years = 1290 + 42 + 3 = 1335, then 150 Days of Star Wormwood Begins)
3. 2300 Days = 2300 x 15 = 34500 or 34 Years which is 12210 + 195

1. Moses Miracle Declaring the Jubilee (Sabbatical Cycles of 7x7=49, parallels this as a Jubilee Observance to End of Time)
2. Noah Miracle Declaring the Ark's Measurement (Complete Celestial Cycle of the Earth to End of Time)
3. Hezekiah's Miracle Declaring the Complete Cycle of the Day (Day Cycle to the End of Time)

Conclusion Set Duration Equals
1. 62nd Week to 153 Days of Star Wormwood
2. 12210 Days + 42 Days to 153 Days of Star Wormwood
3. 34 years to 153 Days of Star Wormwood

Conclusion Set Origination Points
1. Lamech in Genesis, Clarified in Book of Daniel
2. Ezra 8:32-35, Clarified in Revelations (12000, 42, 3, 150) 12210, 42, 3, 150
3. Amos, Clarified in New Testament (30 Jesus and Joseph, 4 for Lazarus)

Parallels
1. 1977 Wow Signal - (Independence of Isreal with Sabbatical set divisions of 7 years ... for 70 x 7 of Daniel 9)
2. 2013 Comet Ison - (Solstice Precessional Alignment of 1980, 1998, 2012, 2016 ... for 12210 of the Mayan Calendar and Daniel 12)
3. 2003 Nibiru Cataclysm - (1994 as a Special Jubilee, plus about 23 Years for 2300 of Daniel 8)

Parallels were Arbitrary Points, See Explanation:

There isn't such a thing as more than one day of judgment. Daniel has summarized three common methods of calculating the Lords Return. They are all imperfect, because, they reference both the Lifespan of Jesus Christ, and the Antichrist, with no acknowledgement or understanding of the Antichrist, the equations cannot be applied. .....................

1967 + Jubilee of 50 Years = 2016 (Not 2017, the Day Cycle Changes equals another year)
1982 + 34 Years (12210 + 195) = 2016 (Lifespan of Antichrist = Absolute Measurement, no pen*s, rap* and murde*)
1994 + 23 years = 2016 (Not 2017, the Day Cycle Changes equals another year)

What is Going on in Daniel 9? Solution

God calls the "Three Days of Darkness", the "Seventh from God, which is Enoch" by going from the 62nd Week to the 69th Week. God has indicated that he has made intercession for the Gospel's Program. Eliminating all and any form of repentance to expand the limited geographic area that will be going into the 5 Months of Revelation, thus eliminating the "Three Days of Darkness" and solidifying the following Equation:

600,000 of all the Billions Slain with no Hope of any more Salvation from all Nations + Who ever gathers with the Antichrist for 150 Days of Star Wormwood, "Four Separatist Inheritors*" of the Gospel's Program Only. ............. God after he allowed Moses to gather 600,000 for the two sets of 10 commandments or 20 Generations of Gen. 5 and 11., then God allowed Moses to bless Joshua, and God gave Joshua the 10 Gentile Generations of Genesis 10. At the end of time, God gathers 600,000 then God allows the Antichrist to gather those that remain.

(God has indicated that he has made intercession to invalidate the "Three Days of Darkness", in the Book of Daniel's Equation with Enoch. There is not a direct form of invalidation for the "Three Days of Darkness" in the other two presentations of the equations ending in the 150 Days of Star Wormwood) Love and Blessings. (159,000 x 4 for 636,000 + the 5 Months of the Limited Geographic Area of the City of Philadelphia during the 150 Days of Star Wormwood, the figures for the 4 Separatist Inheritors* will be increased according to the margin of those going to the New Universe) (God told Noah, not "Three Days of Darkness", God told Noah "Seven Days of Enoch", invalidating the "Three Days of Darkness" form of repentance or any repentance at all, then 150 Days of Star Wormwood, that is what the Seventh Weeks of Daniel Declares) (If it is true the Antichrist is with Joseph, then, based on the level of truth he has provided at this level, the non-w***e races, and the whites, all others, must be killing his body and causing unnatural suffering at an incredible rate, following and establishing all his claims of total global euthanasia, the level euthanasia level of force used against me in our nightly walk was good, we will do this again soon).
 
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beameup

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The Tanach, for the Christians the OT, teaches very clearly that there is only ONE God, and that is Y-H-W-H.

There was only ONE Adam in the beginning. However, there was an Eve inside of him (in his bosom). Eve emanated from Adam when God brought her out as a separate entity. Then the man and woman were then brought together as ONE.
Pretty standard rabbinical teaching.

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him John 1:18

Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. John 8:24

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. John 1:1-2
 

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There was only ONE Adam in the beginning. However, there was an Eve inside of him (in his bosom). Eve emanated from Adam when God brought her out as a separate entity. Then the man and woman were then brought together as ONE.
Pretty standard rabbinical teaching.

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144,000 of Reuben before the Foundation of Time, God specifically views Adam as Pregnant, which is to say as the "Express Image of Jesus"

144,000 of Benjamin which is the Old Testament, God specifically views Jonah as Pregnant, which is to say as the "Express Image of Jesus"

144,000 of Joseph which is Revelation, God specifically views the Antichrist as Pregnant, which is to say as the "Express Image of Jesus"

70 x 7 of Daniel ... 1290 to 1335 of Daniel ... 2300 of Daniel, are different ways to view the same and identical equation of the "Two Witnesses" (12210 + 195), in which Jesus uses an individual to "Confirm the Covenant", which is to echo the voices of the Angels and the Saints. (The Lives of Billions of people are completed, they are simply condemned to death, over a few hundreds of thousands of instances of enjoying causing the Antichrist suffering and pain and death ... we have days now until these people are deceased, then we will move forwards, and beyond dead work and dead flesh, right now, we need to continue in the pattern of keeping these people on the attack with lethal force).
 

Elia

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There was only ONE Adam in the beginning. However, there was an Eve inside of him (in his bosom). Eve emanated from Adam when God brought her out as a separate entity. Then the man and woman were then brought together as ONE.
Pretty standard rabbinical teaching.

Bs"d

You believe in rabbinic teachings now?

Where can I find these rabbinic teachings?

Or did you just make them up, as usual?
 

Elia

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Be very careful ~During Tribulation the anti-christ will deceive MANY into believing he is the true messiah, and many will be deceived into following him all the way to hell.

Bs"d

You mean like the Christians are following that carpenter all the way to hell?

Jesus was the true Messiah, and the reason you cannot receive that truth is because YOU are deceived and living in darkness, sadly.

If somebody claims to be the messiah, then he has to fulfil the messianic prophecies. If he doesn't do so, then he is a false messiah.

Your carpenter didn't fulfil the messianic prophecies.

It really is that simple.

"Serve Y-H-W-H! And if it seems evil to you to serve Y-H-W-H, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell.
But as for me and my house, we will serve Y-H-W-H!”

Joshua 24:14-15
 

Elia

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Humans worship the God-Man when he shows up.

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Christians worship the carpenter/man-god who showed up 2000 years ago.



"For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of Y-H-W-H our God for ever and ever."
Micah 4:5
 

beameup

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Only according to people who cannot count.

70 X 7 = 490
The Jewish leaders of Israel in the 1st century must have been totally ignorant, since they couldn't multiply 7X70.

However, according to you, "the Messiah" came in 408 B.C.
What is his name, and what is he doing?

BTW, no resurrection = no judgment
Jews say there in no resurrection.
 

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70 X 7 = 490
The Jewish leaders of Israel in the 1st century must have been totally ignorant, since they couldn't multiply 7X70.

However, according to you, "the Messiah" came in 408 B.C.
What is his name, and what is he doing?

BTW, no resurrection = no judgment
Jews say there in no resurrection.

The Gospel doesn't provide us with "70x7=490", we are provided with "70x7 = 62 Weeks (430 Years), 62+7 Weeks (3 Days), 1 Week (150 Days) ............ We can make a logical statement for 490, but we are not provided with that figure as the Solution to Daniel 9.

What can we do with 490?

GENESIS 4:24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
LUKE 17:4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.


1. (62nd Week) 62x7 = 430 Years
2. (62nd Week to 69th Week) = 7x7 or 49 Years
3. (69th Week to 70th Week) = 1 Week = Eleventh Month of November

Total 430 + 49 + 11 = 490
Genesis 37:9, the Gospel's Program is Completed in the 11th Month.

MATTHEW 20:5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.
MATTHEW 20:6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?

Matthew 20:5-6 states that 69 Weeks Equals 479 Years, then the 70th Week is Completed in the 11th Month of November (150 Days are Completed then)
62 Weeks = 62x7 or 430 years (62 Week Duration)
69th Week = 62+7 or 7x7 or 49 years (7 Week Duration)
69th Week to 70th Week = 11th Month of November (1 Week Duration)

The Messiah Came in 408 B.C. as a Parallel, maybe some others also? ... we observed a Logical statement for 479 Years of Daniel 9 to the 69th Week's Completion

THE PERSIAN WAR (490-479 B.C.)
The Great Invasion of 480-479 B.C.

490 = Yes as an Equation, 490 Years = No, 490th Year = No. ...... 2016 - 479 Years = Total Lunar Eclipse of 24 May, 1537 AD. to the "Three Days of Darkness" in 2016, that is a Logical Statement the Gospel Supports. Love and Blessings. (In Reality, at the moment we must be faithful and assume the "Three Days of Darkness of Repentance" are invalidated, based on God's substitution of "Seven Enoch" for "Three Days of Lamb Slain", according to Daniel's 7 Week Substitution of the "Three Days of Darkness" as it indicates, echoed by God's Warning to Noah about Seven Days before the 150 Days of the Flood, no "Three Days of Darkness" with Noah, none at all)...(1967 + Jubilee of 50 Years, or 49 years to 2016 + 50th Year of 150 Days ending in the Month of November 2016, when the Day Cycle Changes, immediately the New Moon/Year Begins).
 
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dodge

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You mean like the Christians are following that carpenter all the way to hell?


Nope, that would be like you that cannot see , hear, or receive the TRUTH.

If somebody claims to be the messiah, then he has to fulfil the messianic prophecies. If he doesn't do so, then he is a false messiah.

Jesus fulfilled EVERY messianic prophecy, and because YOU ignore the truth changes nothing.

Your carpenter didn't fulfil the messianic prophecies.

Of course you who are dead in sin and trespasses cannot receive the truth. YOUR loss not mine.

It really is that simple.

Yes, it is JESUS is the Messiah whom you deny to YOUR own eternal peril.
 

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62nd Week to 69th Week = 7 Weeks or 7x7 Years

LEVITICUS 25:8 And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years.
LEVITICUS 25:9 Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth [day] of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land.
LEVITICUS 25:10 And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout [all] the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.


The Gospel declares 49 years can apply to the Seven Weeks from the 62nd Week to the 69th Week of Daniel 9.

62 Weeks = 430 years (Galations 3:17-19, Primary Division of 70 Weeks, duration Egypt)
62nd to 69th or "Seven Weeks" = 49 Years (Leviticus 25:8-10)
69th Week to 70th Week or "One Week" = 50th Year or Jubilee which is Star Wormwood for 150 Days (Isiah 3:1-4)

430 + 49 + 11 (Month of November ends 150 Days) = 490 to Complete the 50th And Final Jubilee that concludes the Events of Revelation, with a final 49 Years, and then a Special Year that Ends the Day Cycle for the 5 Months of Revelation.................God Talks about in Revelation 11/Galations 3:17-19, how the Lamb Slain Jesus marks the 62nd Week, which begins "Three Days and Half of Darkness", and how the death of the "Two Witnesses" marks the completion of the "Three Days and Half of Darkness" in Revelation 11/Isiah 3:1-4 (Isiah 3:1-4, counts the 50th Jubilee as the 150 Days of Star Wormwood). Love and Blessings. (As a Jubilee Observance, Yes, 62nd to 69th = 49 Years, but as an Observance for the Events of Revelation, the answer is No, 62nd to 69th = "Three Days and Half" only, or "Seven of Enoch" because it is invalidated, like God issued Noah "Seven of Enoch" before the Flood, to invalid the "Three and Half Days of Darkness" then, by replacing the interpretation, to give himself glory, and reject that generation of repentance of anykind, "Jesus Killed, "Two Witnesses Killed" = 62nd to 69th Week (As was Illustrated by Jesus on the Cross at the 69th 6 and 9 hours), but Matthew, Mark, and Luke, claimed that Peter Said they could not be overcome because they were Stones and could not be broken by a Dark Cloud of Wind ....... we have a 10 hour walk today, keep their kinds on the attack, lethal force preferably)
 
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