Thanks, and my condolences.
In the future, if I see that "answer", I will just know the answerer doesn't have an answer.
What are womens gift in the bible ? what are her things, special atributes G-d gave to them and only them ?
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In the future, if I see that "answer", I will just know the answerer doesn't have an answer.
Idolater
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Do you think passive aggression is a sin? Or just petty and small?Thanks, and my condolences.
In the future, if I see that "answer", I will just know the answerer doesn't have an answer.
Anything not of love, is a sin...don't you think?
Was the AMR comment passive-aggressive?
Idolater
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No.
Your comment was passive aggressive.
You, accusing me of being passive aggressive, when you're in fact the passive aggressive one?
Passive aggressive!
I don't know to what you are referring, so I can't make it right with you.
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
OK. Fine by me.
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
In Catholicism "the place of God" is accepting the sacrifice of the Mass, which is offered to Him upon an altar. So in order for Catholics to "[put] anything other than God in the place of God" to commit idolatry, we would need to offer sacrifices to something other than the Father.
Idolater
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No. The Church offers Christ Himself.So you're saying you can offer Christ's work on the cross and claim it as your own offering"
I'm giving you the definition of idolatry, Idolater. By definition, regardless of what religion you're from, putting anything other than God in the place of God is idolatry.
A location (however figurative) is not an action (which cannot be a figure of speech).
To use an analogy, God is on a pedestal. Idolatry is taking God off of that pedestal and replacing Him with something else. You (and the entire Catholic church) do just that by claiming that Mary (or any saint, for that matter) can and does intercede for men. You take God off the pedestal of "the One and Only Intercessor, the One Mediator," and replace Him with Mary.
Sacrifice has nothing to do with it, and even if there was, it would be sacrificing your worship of Him for worship of something/someone other than God.
Idolater
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I answered this directly. In Catholicism "putting anything other than God in the place of God" is sacrificing to something other than God the Father.
You need to stop acting like you know Catholicism so well that you can instruct me on it. You don't.
It has everything to do with it, in Catholicism. It is our highest form of worship, reserved for God the Father alone.
Sacrificing is worshiping.
Then that is exactly what you're doing:
I know enough to show you where it's contrary to scripture.
You need to stop acting like you're un-instruct-able, and learn some humility.
Then you sacrifice time you should be spending worshipping God and instead devote it to Mary, such as in the Rosary.
In other words, idolatry.
Idolater
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No you don't. That's what I'm saying.
If that's what I'm doing then I agree with you. I have made it my mission to be the opposite of uninstructable.
We pray to the Father and to the Son in the rosary, and we also ask Mary to pray for us.
Catholicism is invulnerable to accusations of idolatry. We offer the sacrifice of the Mass to the Father, that is our worship and it is our highest form of worship, that is not a lie or an exaggeration, and so for us to commit idolatry we would have to offer the Eucharist----the consecrated host----on an altar to something other than the Father.
Even typing out that scenario is chilling, and it would be extremely idolatrous, and we do not do that.
Jesus already did that, for us. ???
Is it sacrilege to throw a rosary in the trash can?
Instead of doing that, why not just obey Him, without fault, all day, week, year long?
glorydaz
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Ah, without fault obedience. I know Christ had perfect obedience.....
Yes, He did...and now that we are "in Christ", we can be obedient too.
Thanks be to God and His grace !!!
Idolater
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His eternal sacrifice is perpetual.
Would you be kind enough to elaborate on that?
Yes, and we don't need to keep doing it.