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What are womens gift in the bible ? what are her things, special atributes G-d gave to them and only them ?
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It is the epitome of idolatry.
glorydaz
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So what sacrifices do you offer to the Father alone?
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Idolater
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News flash?
Nah. The epitome of idolatry is the offering up of sacrifices upon an altar in a temple to a fake deity.
Idolater
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The body, blood, soul and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ is ceaselessly offered to the Father because His death on the altar of the cross it is eternal.
Or praying to someone besides Father, through Jesus Christ.
Or, for that matter, doing what we want instead of what God wants.
We make ourselves the idol...above God.
Idolater
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All right if you just want to throw all normal meaning for words out the window go ahead and be my guest.
Good luck with all of that.
Incidentally there's only one other biblical definition for idolatry and it's COVETING
glorydaz
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So you take back your statement from earlier, "We actually offer sacrifices however, to just God the Father alone"?
Yep, wanting something contrary to God's commandment.
A work of the flesh, which some still walk in.
Idolater
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I didn't take anything back. We offer the sacrifice of the body, blood, soul and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ to God the Father.
Idolater
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AMR.
glorydaz
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So you're saying you can offer Christ's work on the cross and claim it as your own offering"
The problem is that there is ONE Mediator between God and man.
THE MAN CHRIST JESUS.
The rosary replaces Jesus as the Mediator with Mary. Textbook definition of idolatry.
The "altar" is the rosary.
"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen."
And later...
"Hail, holy Queen, mother of mercy, our life, our sweetness, and our hope. To you we cry, poor banished children of Eve; to you we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.
Turn, then, most gracious advocate, your eyes of mercy toward us; and after this, our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of your womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.
Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ"
How to Pray the Rosary: Guide to the Rosary Prayer
Learn how to pray the Rosary with Hallow's step-by-step guide. Read more about walking with Mary through Christ's life to strengthen your prayer.
hallow.com
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And it makes it an entire ritual, at that.
Mary cannot hear you. Let alone hear you, she likely cannot even understand you, as she was a Hebrew woman who's last moments on earth were nearly two thousand years ago. English didn't even exist at that point, and she likely has been more concerned with things going on in heaven, than the things on earth, to bother spending the time to learn every language on the planet that has come into existence since her time on earth. Could she have, sure, but then you have to deal with the fact that she is not omnipresent, she literally cannot be at all points on earth simultaneously, and thus cannot hear, even if she wanted to, every single prayer made to her, let alone be able to understand all of them, let alone be able to distinguish between them.
This is why JESUS is our Mediator, and not a human woman like Mary.
Idolatry is putting anything other than God in the place of God.
How about filling me in on what AMR stand for?
God didn't need a "mother", as God has always been.The problem is that there is ONE Mediator between God and man.
THE MAN CHRIST JESUS.
The rosary replaces Jesus as the Mediator with Mary. Textbook definition of idolatry.
The "altar" is the rosary.
"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen."
And later...
"Hail, holy Queen, mother of mercy, our life, our sweetness, and our hope. To you we cry, poor banished children of Eve; to you we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.
Turn, then, most gracious advocate, your eyes of mercy toward us; and after this, our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of your womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.
Pray for us, O holy Mother of God.
That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ"
How to Pray the Rosary: Guide to the Rosary Prayer
Learn how to pray the Rosary with Hallow's step-by-step guide. Read more about walking with Mary through Christ's life to strengthen your prayer.hallow.com
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And it makes it an entire ritual, at that.
Mary cannot hear you. Let alone hear you, she likely cannot even understand you, as she was a Hebrew woman who's last moments on earth were nearly two thousand years ago. English didn't even exist at that point, and she likely has been more concerned with things going on in heaven, than the things on earth, to bother spending the time to learn every language on the planet that has come into existence since her time on earth. Could she have, sure, but then you have to deal with the fact that she is not omnipresent, she literally cannot be at all points on earth simultaneously, and thus cannot hear, even if she wanted to, every single prayer made to her, let alone be able to understand all of them, let alone be able to distinguish between them.
This is why JESUS is our Mediator, and not a human woman like Mary.
I'm not Catholic. Idolater is, I was simply pointing out the heresy within his belief system.
Ask Mr. Religion was (he passed away a couple years ago) a member of TOL. There used to be an emoji on the old TOL site (before we updated the forum software to Xenforo) that used his initials.
I understand.
I should have started my post with..."I agree, and additionally..."