Was Jesus a Jew?
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Out of the mouth of two witnesses...
So I'll try this again (sans mock-TV-ad format).
Mat 1:1-3 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat...
Luk 3:33-34 ...which was [the son] of Phares, which was [the son] of Juda, which was [the son] of Jacob, which was [the son] of Isaac, which was [the son] of Abraham...
Since Phares didn't have to earthly fathers, that leaves out Aaron/Levi.
Furthermore, according to Hbr 7:14 - "our Lord sprang out of Juda, of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood."
So I'll try this again (sans mock-TV-ad format).
Not according to scripture:Frank Ernest said:
Mat 1:1-3 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren; And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat...
Luk 3:33-34 ...which was [the son] of Phares, which was [the son] of Juda, which was [the son] of Jacob, which was [the son] of Isaac, which was [the son] of Abraham...
Since Phares didn't have to earthly fathers, that leaves out Aaron/Levi.
Furthermore, according to Hbr 7:14 - "our Lord sprang out of Juda, of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood."
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Let's see...
He was born of a Jewish mother and to a Jewish Father.
He was circumcised on the eighth day.
He was dedicated in the temple after the time of purification.
He learned from the Rabbis and teachers of the synagogues and temples.
He went to the festival of the passover every year with his parents (and into his adulthood with his disciples).
Throughout his life he went to Synagogue on the Sabbath (which was describe as his "custom" later on in his life).
He became a Rabbi (which is the Jewish word for a teacher of the law).
When Jesus teaches his disciples he instructs them often in Torah.
Jesus takes up the title "Messiah" and "Christ," both terms that were used for the "annointed one," and were particular to the King of the Jews.
Jesus lives in Palestine among Jews his entire life (even his twelve apostles are Jews).
Jesus takes 12 apostle, falling in line with the tradition of Israel (where twelve tribes were the whole of Israel).
Jesus had the rights of a Jew in the Roman empire.
Jesus was put to death on a cross (which would only have been allowed for one who was not a citizen of Rome).
Do I need to continue? Asking if Jesus is a Jew is like asking whether the sky is blue. Jesus comes in fulfillment of the law and the prophets. What else could he be other than a Jew?
Peace,
Michael
He was born of a Jewish mother and to a Jewish Father.
He was circumcised on the eighth day.
He was dedicated in the temple after the time of purification.
He learned from the Rabbis and teachers of the synagogues and temples.
He went to the festival of the passover every year with his parents (and into his adulthood with his disciples).
Throughout his life he went to Synagogue on the Sabbath (which was describe as his "custom" later on in his life).
He became a Rabbi (which is the Jewish word for a teacher of the law).
When Jesus teaches his disciples he instructs them often in Torah.
Jesus takes up the title "Messiah" and "Christ," both terms that were used for the "annointed one," and were particular to the King of the Jews.
Jesus lives in Palestine among Jews his entire life (even his twelve apostles are Jews).
Jesus takes 12 apostle, falling in line with the tradition of Israel (where twelve tribes were the whole of Israel).
Jesus had the rights of a Jew in the Roman empire.
Jesus was put to death on a cross (which would only have been allowed for one who was not a citizen of Rome).
Do I need to continue? Asking if Jesus is a Jew is like asking whether the sky is blue. Jesus comes in fulfillment of the law and the prophets. What else could he be other than a Jew?
Peace,
Michael
ItIsWritten
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there seems to be some question... based on what?
there seems to be some question... based on what?
there seems to be some question... based on what?
BB, You titled this thread "Was Jesus a Jew?" so it would seem that these "other people" have raised what you see as a reasonable question. You say "seems to be some question about whether or not Jesus was a Jew" but I haven't found where you've said what is the basis of any such question is. (If I missed where you said this I'm sorry.) So how about letting us know what issue(s) these people have raised that led you to post this question.BillyBob said:
ItIsWritten
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Fine. But I'm still wondering what was/is the supposed basis upon which the quesiton is based. Surely you didn't think that it was an entirely basisless and foolish question or you would not have started this thread, so something must have caught your eye. I'd be interested to know what was. Was there some point of tension in the scritures that they pointed to or did these "other people" cite any verses as prompting them to suggest this?BillyBob said:
It would appear that the poster believes the second coming has already happened. I hope he is wrong about that because I don't think it would be a good thing to have missed.
His question assumes that inorder for Jesus to be a "Jew" He would have to believe what present day Jews believe. He never was a present day Jew. In any case Judeism is more heritage based than belief based. Modern Jews consider themselves Jews if their mother was Jewish. The Bible clearly showes that in Jesus's day the father's heritage was atleast equally important. Modern Jewish thought and culture have changed a great deal since then. it is still Jewish thought and culture.
This argument is a bit like saying that George Washington was not an American, because he owned slaves and owning slaves is illegal in America.
"Fruitcake" is a bit strong but clearly logic is an unknown county to the poster.
ItIsWritten
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Rather then send us fishing, any chance you remember even one of the reasons they raised?BillyBob said:
