Perjury and obstruction of justice are serious charges, but that's the wrong Clinton for 2016. And what the Trump team appears to be guilty of looks a lot worse. I mean, threat to the Republic worse. There was a time that threats to the Republic weren't handled in a partisan fashion, but that was before conservatives could rely on their own media to spin things their way forever. Now we have a badly misinformed right-wing that's protected from ever encountering a contrary thought, and there's basically nothing to stop them running away with the country.
Trump's Wildly Successful Trip
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Perjury and obstruction of justice are serious charges, but that's the wrong Clinton for 2016. And what the Trump team appears to be guilty of looks a lot worse. I mean, threat to the Republic worse. There was a time that threats to the Republic weren't handled in a partisan fashion, but that was before conservatives could rely on their own media to spin things their way forever. Now we have a badly misinformed right-wing that's protected from ever encountering a contrary thought, and there's basically nothing to stop them running away with the country.
How about this one: What if, instead of Hillary Clinton setting up her own private email server, what if she called the Russian ambassador and said "Hey, I've got some classified emails to send, why don't you guys set up a server for me to use?" How would you react? Would that have been ok for Clinton to do?
No thanks ... not into the diversions and fake news spread to take the heat off most horrible person ever elected (by virtue of Putin) into the oval office.
Oh ... but THAT'S different.
Quetzal
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Wow, really? Were we watching the same visit? He was ostracized by the group. Merkel slammed him in a speech. Relationships with allies are strained and more distant than ever. For me, it was a catastrophe and an embarrassment.
It's really almost as if they're taking everything Clinton and Obama were ever criticized for and saying "can we do the same thing, except even worse, and get away with it?"
You know your trip is a success when your allies are giving speeches the next day about how they can't rely on you anymore.
Quetzal
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Right?
Neither one of them, unlike Trump, ever sold out their country. He makes Nixon look like a saint.
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Nixon resigned because his own party told him that he had to for the good of the country, and in that final act he was a patriot. Now, neither President nor party care about the good of the country, and we can't count on them acting in its defense.
Arthur Brain
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Can't help thinking that Trump would be a better president if he actually was on a trip...
(Not that I endorse drugs of course)
(Not that I endorse drugs of course)
Foxfire
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I think your RIGHT! Trump didn't exactly bow at all, it looked like more of a girlish curtsy. :chuckle:
Seriously though, I've looked at pics of all the recent presidents bowing to the Saudi King and I can't find one of them that's more/less (pick your flavor) offensive than any of the others on that score. :think:
Foxfire
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:mock:
Trumps trip was soooo bad that:
#1) Fox News isn't even throwing shade on their competition for NOT covering it! :rotfl:
Last check I've seen that good was at a hockey game!
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Quetzal
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She is a member of the G7 and one of our allies in EU. A continued partnership with her is a must, this distancing from the administration can only be seen as a negative outcome of Trumps catastrophe of a summit.
Quetzal
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Are you from Germany or have a personal attachment to Germany?