Trump's sexual history doesn't count

Town Heretic

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Clinton is plausibly accused of rape and sexual assault by several women.
Claims that never saw a court or a conviction. What we do know from the Lewinsky scandal is that at the very least he wanted to be Kennedy in the worst way and he managed it. Or, he was at best a deeply flawed human being. Did that mean he couldn't be effective as president? Apparently not, which drove his enemies crazy.

Similarly, we know Trump is at best morally compromised and willfully so. But does that mean he can't be effective as president? No, it doesn't.

What it does mean though is those who made a great deal out of the moral compromise of Clinton and then supported Trump, with every reason to understand his character, were and remain hypocritical.
 

musterion

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Claims that never saw a court or a conviction. What we do know from the Lewinsky scandal is that at the very least he wanted to be Kennedy in the worst way and he managed it. Or, he was at best a deeply flawed human being. Did that mean he couldn't be effective as president? Apparently not, which drove his enemies crazy.

Similarly, we know Trump is at best morally compromised and willfully so. But does that mean he can't be effective as president? No, it doesn't.

What it does mean though is those who made a great deal out of the moral compromise of Clinton and then supported Trump, with every reason to understand his character, were and remain hypocritical.

If Clinton's clean, so is Trump.
 

glorydaz

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He didn't say Clinton was clean. What he said was that those who screamed about Clinton and now support Trump are hypocritical. Works the other way as well. Those of us who supported Clinton and now scream about Trump are also hypocritical.
However, in hindsight. Clinton should have been forced out, for his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. If it happened today I think his support would have disappeared.

The other problem is that Clinton was a pig but politically competent. Trump is a pig and incompetent on every level.

Clinton performed his piggish behaviour in the Oval Office, and Trump did not.

To say Trump is incompetent on every level is just plain stupid. :rolleyes:
 

drbrumley

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Thanks for the thanked post, but I'm not certain you took it the way it was meant.
 

Jonahdog

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Clinton performed his piggish behaviour in the Oval Office, and Trump did not.

To say Trump is incompetent on every level is just plain stupid. :rolleyes:

Really? Let me change the comment. If you had an employee who lied all the time, undercut other employees,called people names, abused women (even in the past) and spent more time either playing golf or making $ for him self than for you, what would you do?
 

musterion

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He didn't say Clinton was clean. What he said was that those who screamed about Clinton and now support Trump are hypocritical. Works the other way as well. Those of us who supported Clinton and now scream about Trump are also hypocritical.
However, in hindsight. Clinton should have been forced out, for his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. If it happened today I think his support would have disappeared.

The other problem is that Clinton was a pig but politically competent. Trump is a pig and incompetent on every level.

Irrelevant goal post moving. You are disqualified.
 

Rusha

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Maybe...they're both dirty. Did you think of that?

Certainly ... the difference is intelligence, competency and temperament. The GOP has no one but themselves to blame for using the sexual history of a POTUS as a means to work towards impeachment. Also, the country was 100% safer under Clinton because he was bright enough to understand that spouting off about the prospective use of nuclear weapons was a serious threat not to be used as a means to distract.
 
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