Trumpcare

[Foxfire]

Are you loving the NEW Healthcare plan? Trump's baby?

Soooo, how's that going for you? :think:

 

[Rusha]

Soooo, how's that going for you? :think:

Blame it on the Dems ... we know Trump is ....

 

[patrick jane]

Soooo, how's that going for you? :think:

It's fine with me

 

[jgarden]

When is all this "winning" going to start - or have we already missed it?

 

[patrick jane]

It's just not time yet, but Trumpcare will be the best thing ever !!

 

[ok doser]

In a discussion centered around government "charity":

Charity is not forced

No one is saying charity is forced. Some of us are saying you can't be forced to do what you'd be willing to give in the first place.

In the first place, would you be willing to spend your evenings reading stories to your son?

Of course

By your logic then, you shouldn't raise a fuss if the governnment forces you to spend your evenings reading stories to your neighbor's children

I'd like to set this up as a new thread, but it ain't gonna happen with this crappy ipad :sozo2:

 

[Town Heretic]

In a discussion centered around government "charity":

I'd like to set this up as a new thread, but it ain't gonna happen with this crappy ipad :sozo2:

I saw your ham fisted attempt at parallel the first time. Here's one reason why it's goofy: you wrote it. Here's another: my principle is that I can't be "forced" to do what I would otherwise be willing to do if asked. I wouldn't necessarily be willing to read to a neighbor's kid. Depends on the neighbor, the kid, and what's on my plate. There are any number of reasons why I might decline. So the assumption that I'd be willing isn't necessarily so.

But the people belly aching about tax dollar sponsored aid for the poor are proclaiming their willingness. That's why they have a problem and that's the nature of my note about the problem in it.

 

[ok doser]

Polly prissypants gets her feathers ruffled:

I saw your ham fisted attempt at parallel the first time. Here's one reason why it's goofy: you wrote it.

:darwinsm:


Settle down, little girl


And if i go into town tonight where they have real computers, I'll be glad to show why the rest of your self serving nonsense is just that :wave:

 

[Town Heretic]

(so that's how easy that is--sounds like a Star Wars character to rival Jar-Jar) Polly prissypants gets her feathers ruffled:

Yeah, nothing screams upset like calling a thing goofy.
lain:

Settle down, little girl

I'd say you should get a dog, but I like dogs.

And if i go into town tonight where they have real computers, I'll be glad to show why the rest of your self serving nonsense is just that

:guitar: And "We'll have a good time then, son. You know we'll have a good time then." Or, sure, take all the time you need to try to find an actual answer and by all means cobble whatever time-buying excuse you need in the meanwhile.

 

[ok doser]

In the meantime, you go right ahead and wave that victory flag at yourself, Polly :darwinsm:

 

[patrick jane]

The goal of the regressive left is go to a single payer health system. Obamacare helps ensure this goal. The left wants all insurance companies to drop out, leaving only the government to provide healthcare. It's still progressing according to plan.

 

[ok doser]

Never understood why they dint just go full-socialist and nationalize the healthcare insurance sector :idunno:

 

[Jonahdog]

Never understood why they dint just go full-socialist and nationalize the healthcare insurance sector :idunno:

because the right wing would not allow that. There is too much $ to be made in health care.

 

[patrick jane]

because the right wing would not allow that. There is too much $ to be made in health care.

Yeah, the "right wing" is making a fortune off healthcare. :yawn:

 

[Danoh]

Never understood why they dint just go full-socialist and nationalize the healthcare insurance sector :idunno:

I'm reminded of a nurse from a very poor foreign country I once dealt with on a regular basis.

One day, when I asked this individual why so many people from their country were so often so very rude and crude in their dealings with the ill, this person replied that theirs was a very poor country; that many went into the profession for the money.

Over the years, I have continued to find that same pattern - entry into the medical profession by many, for the money over the love of caring for others (as taxing, and yet, as rewarding in itself, as that can be).

Always makes me wonder if the profession were to pay far worse than it does, might it actually attract more to it because they actually care about others, rather than for the "Doctor" prestige, and all the rest.

Single Payer can only fail under a medical system where wealth is the agenda of far too many of its Practitioners.

In contrast (as an example, being that "religion" is often another victim of the pursuit of wealth), within Mid-Acts Dispensationalism, most of it's Pastor-Teachers work a nine to five or have a business on the side they rely on for the bills.

Their Pastorship being for the love of the Word.

I've seen this firsthand throughout this still great land of ours.

Rom. 5:8

 

[patrick jane]

I'm reminded of a nurse from a very poor foreign country I once dealt with on a regular basis.

One day, when I asked this individual why so many people from their country were so often so very rude and crude in their dealings with the ill, this person replied that theirs was a very poor country; that many went into the profession for the money.

Over the years, I have continued to find that same pattern - entry into the medical profession by many, for the money over the love of caring for others (as taxing, and yet, as rewarding in itself, as that can be).

Always makes me wonder if the profession were to pay far worse than it does, might it actually attract more to it because they actually care about others, rather than for the "Doctor" prestige, and all the rest.

Single Payer can only fail under a medical system where wealth is the agenda of far too many of its Practitioners.

In contrast (as an example, being that "religion" is often another victim of the pursuit of wealth), within Mid-Acts Dispensationalism, most of it's Pastor-Teachers work a nine to five or have a business on the side they rely on for the bills.

Their Pastorship being for the love of the Word.

I've seen this firsthand throughout this still great land of ours.

Rom. 5:8

Great points danish

 

[patrick jane]

Maybe Trump really didn't care if the GOP healthcare plans went through or not. He didn't "sell" it as he could have and he has said dozens of times "let Obamacare collapse"

 

[Jonahdog]

I'm reminded of a nurse from a very poor foreign country I once dealt with on a regular basis.

One day, when I asked this individual why so many people from their country were so often so very rude and crude in their dealings with the ill, this person replied that theirs was a very poor country; that many went into the profession for the money.

Over the years, I have continued to find that same pattern - entry into the medical profession by many, for the money over the love of caring for others (as taxing, and yet, as rewarding in itself, as that can be).

Always makes me wonder if the profession were to pay far worse than it does, might it actually attract more to it because they actually care about others, rather than for the "Doctor" prestige, and all the rest.

Single Payer can only fail under a medical system where wealth is the agenda of far too many of its Practitioners.

In contrast (as an example, being that "religion" is often another victim of the pursuit of wealth), within Mid-Acts Dispensationalism, most of it's Pastor-Teachers work a nine to five or have a business on the side they rely on for the bills.

Their Pastorship being for the love of the Word.

I've seen this firsthand throughout this still great land of ours.

Rom. 5:8

Had this same conversation with a female doc recently. I noted the increase in women doctors and she thought one of the reasons was that it was not as lucrative, comparatively, as it used to be. Young men, if they were looking for the $, went into other fields.

 

[The Barbarian]

Maybe Trump really didn't care if the GOP healthcare plans went through or not. He didn't "sell" it as he could have and he has said dozens of times "let Obamacare collapse"

Trump promised high-quality care for everyone, with lower premiums. Did anyone really believe him? If so, they deserved to be taken.

 

[patrick jane]

Trump promised high-quality care for everyone, with lower premiums. Did anyone really believe him? If so, they deserved to be taken.

What did Bammy promise?