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Hmm, well Trump dramatically added to the federal deficit / national debt, promised infrastructure rebuild and then did nothing about it, appointed Fauci and pushed for rapid production of vaccines, etc.

At least Biden gave us infrastructure.
All disinformation. Biden is doing no such thing. But he is spending money like a drunken sailor on leave.
Biden is destroying our infrastructure, especially our energy industry (and with that goes many others).
 

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What about Carrol's mental state? 25 years after the alleged attack she claimed Trump took her into a dressing room and raped her in a 3-minute span. That is hard for me to believe. Carroll made a living promoting sensational immoral sex in correspondence with her listeners. Whether Trump raped her or not does not alter the fact that she lived the life of a profligate woman.
 
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Hmm, well Trump dramatically added to the federal deficit / national debt, promised infrastructure rebuild and then did nothing about it, appointed Fauci and pushed for rapid production of vaccines, etc.

At least Biden gave us infrastructure.
Pure leftwing propaganda. I don't see how people like you can say such things with a straight face.

It is a documented fact that Obama gave us more national debt than all other presidents combined so he is single-handedly responsible for the massive debt we have today. There was no good reason for the debt. It was his lies about shovel ready programs which he laughed about later saying they were not really shovel ready, plus his 1/6 takeover of the American economy with his Marxist Obamacare, which was also a failure.

Trump got stuck with the Chinese flu and that's where most of his deficit spending went. Plus his other deficit spending went to repairing the damage to the military that was caused by your Marxist Democrats.

This happens every cycle. Democrats destroy the military and destroy other aspects of our country, and then Republicans have to repair it and get stuck with the bill.
 

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It is a documented fact that Obama gave us more national debt than all other presidents combined so he is single-handedly responsible for the massive debt we have today.
FACT: Obama inherited the "Great Recession" from Republican President George Dubya Bush.

FACT: Trump inherited a strong economy from Obama.

FACT: 39% of our national debt was accumulated under the Trump administration.

FACT: Trump's deficits were the largest deficits in history during a strong economy.

FACT: Trump added 7.8 trillion dollars to the national debt.
 

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Your Great recession that you claim was caused by Bush was actually caused by the Democrats and their loan policies to minorities. So the great recession was caused by democrats not bush. As usual Democrat facts are lies. (I will post a link to that in a few moments.)

Trump inherited a lousy economy from obama, not a good one, so you have lied twice. For 8 years Obama presided over the worst economic recovery in modern times. For 6 years Obama was blaming Republicans for all his problems and then he claimed 2% growth was the best we could ever hope for. When Trump said he could do better, Obama got snotty and said,
"what are you going to do wave and magic wand?"


Trump's magic wand was common sense, not your socialist garbage. And Trump did far better.

In Obama's last year the rate of GDP growth was already decelerating from its already anemic level. It went from 2.3% in Q2 to 1.9% in Q3, to 1.8% in Q4 of 2016. Under Trump, GDP growth averaged 2.9%, and at one point it even hit 4.2%, which Obama said was impossible.

Now, do you have any more lies you want to tell?

As for Trump's debt, I already explained that most of that is due to a combination of the China flu which was out of his hands, and rebuilding the military and national security that Obama wrecked, so we can thank Obama for that also.

Never met a liberal who can tell the truth, and after meeting you, I can say that has not changed.
 

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FACT: Obama inherited the "Great Recession" from Republican President George Dubya Bush.

FACT: Trump inherited a strong economy from Obama.

FACT: 39% of our national debt was accumulated under the Trump administration.

FACT: Trump's deficits were the largest deficits in history during a strong economy.

FACT: Trump added 7.8 trillion dollars to the national debt.
I am always amazed at how ignorant leftists are about the yearly accumulation of national debt. Presidents alone are never totally responsible for the increase in debt since the House crafts the spending measures that are often so tricked out with spending tied to essential programs that no president would dare veto. Nevertheless, the national debt did not rise $7 billion under Trump alone but it did rise that much with the passage of

$9 billion under Obama. Facts are not crafty posters designed by crooks intending to deceive.

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Historical Debt Outstanding

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Record Date
Debt Outstanding Amount
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Fiscal YearFiscal Quarter NumberCalendar YearCalendar Quarter NumberCalendar Month NumberCalendar Day Number
9/30/2022​
$30,928,911,613,306.73​
1​
20224202230930
9/30/2021​
$28,428,918,570,048.68​
1​
20214202130930
9/30/2020​
$26,945,391,194,615.15​
1​
20204202030930
9/30/2019​
$22,719,401,753,433.78​
1​
20194201930930
9/30/2018​
$21,516,058,183,180.23​
1​
20184201830930
9/30/2017​
$20,244,900,016,053.51​
1​
20174201730930
9/30/2016​
$19,573,444,713,936.79​
1​
20164201630930
9/30/2015​
$18,150,617,666,484.33​
1​
20154201530930
9/30/2014​
$17,824,071,380,733.82​
1​
20144201430930
9/30/2013​
$16,738,183,526,697.32​
1​
20134201330930
9/30/2012​
$16,066,241,407,385.89​
1​
20124201230930
9/30/2011​
$14,790,340,328,557.15​
1​
20114201130930
9/30/2010​
$13,561,623,030,891.79​
1​
20104201030930
9/30/2009​
$11,909,829,003,511.75​
1​
20094200930930
9/30/2008​
$10,024,724,896,912.49​
1​
20084200830930
9/30/2007​
$9,007,653,372,262.48​
1​
20074200730930
9/30/2006​
$8,506,973,899,215.23​
1​
20064200630930
9/30/2005​
$7,932,709,661,723.50​
1​
20054200530930
9/30/2004​
$7,379,052,696,330.32​
1​
20044200430930
9/30/2003​
$6,783,231,062,743.62​
1​
20034200330930
9/30/2002​
$6,228,235,965,597.16​
1​
20024200230930
9/30/2001​
$5,807,463,412,200.06​
1​
20014200130930
9/30/2000​
$5,674,178,209,886.86​
1​
20004200030930
9/30/1999​
$5,656,270,901,615.43​
1​
19994199930930
9/30/1998​
$5,526,193,008,897.62​
1​
19984199830930
9/30/1997​
$5,413,146,011,397.34​
1​
19974199730930
9/30/1996​
$5,224,810,939,135.73​
1​
19964199630930
9/29/1995​
$4,973,982,900,709.39​
1​
19954199530929
9/30/1994​
$4,692,749,910,013.32​
1​
19944199430930
9/30/1993​
$4,411,488,883,139.38​
1​
19934199330930
9/30/1992​
$4,064,620,655,521.66​
1​
19924199230930
9/30/1991​
$3,665,303,351,697.03​
1​
19914199130930
9/28/1990​
$3,233,313,451,777.25​
1​
19904199030928
9/29/1989​
$2,857,430,960,187.32​
1​
19894198930929
9/30/1988​
$2,602,337,712,041.16​
1​
19884198830930
9/30/1987​
$2,350,276,890,953.00​
1​
19874198730930
9/30/1986​
$2,125,302,616,658.42​
1​
19864198630930
9/30/1985​
$1,823,103,000,000.00​
1​
19854198530930
9/30/1984​
$1,572,266,000,000.00​
1​
19844198430930
 

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FACT: Obama inherited the "Great Recession" from Republican President George Dubya Bush.

FACT: Trump inherited a strong economy from Obama.

FACT: 39% of our national debt was accumulated under the Trump administration.

FACT: Trump's deficits were the largest deficits in history during a strong economy.

FACT: Trump added 7.8 trillion dollars to the national debt.
Americans who blame presidents for spending show their ignorance. If a president signs a spending bill then the authors of the bill are the ones proposing spending increases for the president to sign. The US House is responsible for balancing the budget and House lawmakers are the ones responsible for crafting spending bills of the president to sign. The US House, therefore, is largely responsible for increasing the debt, not the president.
 

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Your Great recession that you claim was caused by Bush was actually caused by the Democrats and their loan policies to minorities. So the great recession was caused by democrats not bush.
The Great Recession was the fault of both Republicans and Democrats:

According to a 2011 report by the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, the Great Recession was an "avoidable" disaster caused by widespread failures, including in government regulation and risky behavior by Wall Street.

 

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the great recession was caused by democrats not bush.
At least one recession did begin under every Republican president since Ronald Reagan compared with zero under Democratic presidents over the same period. As a "strong recovery," the Clinton administration clearly qualifies, landing in the fourth spot for growth since World War II. The Obama administration recovery is a jump ball, posting a weaker 2% average GDP, but scoring 75 months of positive job growth.

 

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At least one recession did begin under every Republican president since Ronald Reagan compared with zero under Democratic presidents over the same period. As a "strong recovery," the Clinton administration clearly qualifies, landing in the fourth spot for growth since World War II. The Obama administration recovery is a jump ball, posting a weaker 2% average GDP, but scoring 75 months of positive job growth.

Obama brought joblessness from what, 25% to what, 15% by awarding millions of blacks government disability to take them off the unemployment rolls?
 
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The Great Recession was the fault of both Republicans and Democrats:

According to a 2011 report by the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, the Great Recession was an "avoidable" disaster caused by widespread failures, including in government regulation and risky behavior by Wall Street.

Indeed, as I've said many times, both Republicans and Democrats are bad, but the Democrats are MUCH worse.
 
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Indeed, as I've said many times, both Republicans and Democrats are bad, but the Democrats are MUCH worse.
Bob Enyart said the Republicans are much worse because they get Christian conservatives like you to support groomers like Trump. I think he had a point.

Get a politician with all of the same views as Trump but make him a Democrat and you'd never support him. But just make him a Republican and you will.
 

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Bob Enyart said the Republicans are much worse because they get Christian conservatives like you to support groomers like Trump. I think he had a point.
I never voted for Trump. So your point is pointless.
Get a politician with all of the same views as Trump but make him a Democrat and you'd never support him. But just make him a Republican and you will.
Wrong, as usual.
 

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Bob Enyart said the Republicans are much worse because they get Christian conservatives like you to support groomers like Trump. I think he had a point.

Get a politician with all of the same views as Trump but make him a Democrat and you'd never support him. But just make him a Republican and you will.
Degenerates claim Enyart was wicked for encouraging people to vote for Trump instead of for Hillary.
 
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