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Did you know Presley did that little number? if so, give me a date fast!
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Does that mean the song is now dated or that you are?
Seriously, I have all night...
Already pinged you, but you got it, although I would credit 1962
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Teaching. - Just teaching. The Devil has many, many ministers, ministering false doctrines, doctrines of the Devil. -- That's all, nothing else.
Peace.
Paul -- 062210
grit
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Given the whole Serpent in the Garden incident, I think the devil is as likely in my next-door-neighbour's cat as in Elvis (an anagram for "evils"). I've read that he's somewhat lion-like, but then I've read that of Jesus too, and I certainly wouldn't want to confuse the two. A good neighbour's got to be very careful about such things.
I don't really think the devil made me do it, but I'd be lying if I didn't admit that it sometimes scares me a wee bit about the neighbour's cat, and, of course, the devil is a liar. I never saw Elvis play a lyre, unless we've been completely deceived by those electric guitar thingies. I think that's mostly what the devil does - he plays a very mesmerising lyre, or maybe a fiddle. Say, didn't Elvis have quite the mane with sideburns? :think:
SaulToPaul 2
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His ministers are in pulpits all over the world teaching people to keep the law, keep the sermon on the mount, or get water baptized to be saved.
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This is an important point AMR presents, that I believe should be emphasized and repeated!
Many imagine Satan as being a dark, wicked version of God; that is, they think he is everywhere, knows our thoughts, and is all-powerful like God.
This is not correct. There is no Dualism in God's universe. Satan is not any kind of equal to God.
Satan is a mere spirit, subject to God's control. The wickedness he manages to produce actually comes from the hard hearts of the people he tempts. James 1:14
His greatest power lies in sinners' fear of death. Persons are tempted into all kinds of wickedness that almost always prove to be escapisms of one sort or another.
Christ destroyed the central power of Satan on the cross by removing the fear of death in the sons of God. Since Christ died their death in their stead, they are freed from fear and bondage to the devil. Hebrews 2:14-15
And the indwelling Holy Spirit of Christ gives aid to Christians when and if they are tempted by Satan. Hebrews 2:18
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Well, you have read the best - (thank you folks! I mean it)
Now hear the rest:
I try to work with three pictures:
1 Charles Manson.
Let's say you saw a young Charlie leaning on a stool half on and half off while posing for a picture. his hair is long (and dirty with matted
curls.) he is wearing dirty jeans and a plaid shirt and smiling at you while picking absentmindedly with one hand his long dirty fingernails on the other hand.
Only this Charlie isn't short or crazy. is he is a murderer and a liar?
the answer is yes.
2 Michael Jackson.
I am sooo sorry to use this picture! Please forgive me!
But the young man Michael Jackson was an entertainer of the consummate kind. Extremely skilled and accomplished, yes?
If you saw him on stage then you would have watched him perhaps unwaveringly, perhaps he would have temporarily mesmerized you?
he is useful because at the time I am thinking of he also had long hair.
(Though i have nothing against long hair)
Only the entertainer who looks similar to Michael Jackson here and is indeed performing for a very large number of people - is deceiving
people by saying what is true does not sound as good as what he
is saying. And he sounds believable as well as looks interesting and attractive (hence the use of MJ as a pic.)
3 A Female Serial Killer
The problem with female serial killers is they are not big production killers usually. You actually most likely know they have been there not by a big dramatic crime seen - but by the still silence where once there was the noise of activity of living. Laughter, crying - all meant to go up to God's ears - all gone. No one talking to God anymore - just a still pool in a dark cave where never a ripple goes across it.
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Now hear the rest:
I try to work with three pictures:
1 Charles Manson.
Let's say you saw a young Charlie leaning on a stool half on and half off while posing for a picture. his hair is long (and dirty with matted
curls.) he is wearing dirty jeans and a plaid shirt and smiling at you while picking absentmindedly with one hand his long dirty fingernails on the other hand.
Only this Charlie isn't short or crazy. is he is a murderer and a liar?
the answer is yes.
2 Michael Jackson.
I am sooo sorry to use this picture! Please forgive me!
But the young man Michael Jackson was an entertainer of the consummate kind. Extremely skilled and accomplished, yes?
If you saw him on stage then you would have watched him perhaps unwaveringly, perhaps he would have temporarily mesmerized you?
he is useful because at the time I am thinking of he also had long hair.
(Though i have nothing against long hair)
Only the entertainer who looks similar to Michael Jackson here and is indeed performing for a very large number of people - is deceiving
people by saying what is true does not sound as good as what he
is saying. And he sounds believable as well as looks interesting and attractive (hence the use of MJ as a pic.)
3 A Female Serial Killer
The problem with female serial killers is they are not big production killers usually. You actually most likely know they have been there not by a big dramatic crime seen - but by the still silence where once there was the noise of activity of living. Laughter, crying - all meant to go up to God's ears - all gone. No one talking to God anymore - just a still pool in a dark cave where never a ripple goes across it.
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grit
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OK, I will own up to it with humble sadness. Anyone who's read C.S. Lewis' space trilogy will appreciate the cautionary self-reflection that Ransom, the Christian hero of the series, somehow unwittingly winds up as the tempting 'Serpent in the Garden' for the innocent world of Perelandra.
But with all due deference aside and in all due respect of holy men and office, without a doubt of hesitation, the most vile and devilish creatures I have ever met have been certain licensed and ordained church pastors within my own Christian demoniation of the Presbyterian Church in America, one of whom I'm almost convinced was dæmon-possessed, and who remains in full status of acceptance among the denomination.
Of course, we Presbyterians are known to ocassionally take such a dim view of one another. I don't know, I sometimes think or perhaps only imagine that somehow maybe even dæmons and angels alike started out as Scots-Irish mercenaries.
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:jawdrop:
Surely a "man of the cloth" wouldn't deliberately mislead his flock now would he?
grit
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I'm not sure just when reversible clothing was invented, but it happens. :upright::jawdrop:
Surely a "man of the cloth" wouldn't deliberately mislead his flock now would he?
As of 2007, we now have double reversible clothing, which particularly makes street preachers difficult to figure out.
You are wrong about the fictional character. But you are right about the excuses. Yourself included. You will face judgement for your actions because you are dead to God, and eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Just like many "pentecostals".
And as I told you before, it doesn't have to be that way.
Not really. The Bible says Moses (the Law) is the accuser.
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Your short posts are much better than your essay answers.
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Yep, hit the nail on the head there. I would also add the Devil cannot "make" anyone do anything unless they were under actual possession.
So yes in general its a cop out excuse, I think experience and scripture show that there is far more than enough evil within humans to explain their actions. Any evil corrupting forces are just icing on the cake so to speak.
You mean Edward Cullen is real? SWEET!!!!! I want to be a sparkly vampire.
Well at least we agree on something.
What kind of crazy nonsense are you spouting off with here? I had an orange earlier today, is that what you are talking about?
You are right. You can live in the real world and see it for what it really is and get out of that delusion you have been feeding yourself. It will make you a better person. Smarter too.
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The PCA has procedures for dealing with these accusations. Have you availed yourself of them? Spoke with the session? Filed a complaint with the presbytery? If not, you are violating your obligation as a PCA member and merely accusing the brethren herein. :squint:
BTW, "daemon" is so old-school. Suggests a unix process running versus a malevolent influence.
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