toldailytopic: Same-sex marriage: for it, or against it?

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Arthur Brain

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do you think the children want you to stay together?

No Chrys, they want their parents to cut each others heads off or for one of them to emigrate to Fiji and live as a goat. What is with you nowadays? Obviously it's best if a couple stay together but it's simply not always tenable for a variety of reasons, and a marriage contract isn't some magical cure for failed relationships.
 

Arthur Brain

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do you think they should try to stay together for the sake of the children?

If the couple in question have children and it's possible to work things out then yes. That goes for couples married or not. Obviously marriage itself is not even about children to begin with, but as long as you like your hat handed back to you then repeat the same stupid mantra dude.
 

Dena

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Yup. But it goes down to what is moral. Somebody voiced their objection to my posts in the reps--->You use the Torah to defend your hate but convinently leave out all the other abominations like eating catfish or arrogance. I would like to answer that objection. First of all I am not Jewish. Symbolic dietary laws don't apply. Pointing out immortality is not arrogance.


I see you missed my point.

Our culture has gotten to the point where it not only endorses homosexuality, but it punishes people who do not accept it. It marginalizes people who disagree like this poster who doled out the neg reps. This is just plain wrong.




If negative rep on an internet forum is your idea of punishment then you sure do live a blessed life. At any rate, I didn't give you neg rep because you don't accept homosexuality. I've given neg rep only three times during my three years on this forum. You are perfectly entitled to think homosexuality is wrong. That is your business and it follows along with your religion. I gave you negative rep because you are hateful, rude and mean spirited about it. Not only that but you praise others for the same behavior! So go ahead and whine to the rest of the forum if it makes you feel better.
 

chrysostom

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If the couple in question have children and it's possible to work things out then yes. That goes for couples married or not. Obviously marriage itself is not even about children to begin with, but as long as you like your hat handed back to you then repeat the same stupid mantra dude.

why should they stay together if there are no children involved?
 

griffinsavard

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According to Matthew 19 Jesus said whatever God instituted let not man do away with....A man and a woman is of God, go create your own unity. Why do gay people believe their relationship should be monogamous? A man and a woman constitute the creation of God go make your own institutions and bring them before Government. Marriage between a man and woman is a CHRISTIAN institution....
 

rexlunae

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does that mean I can't vote republican?

You could vote for a Log Cabin Republican. Or you could just write a letter to you Congressman telling them that you'd prefer they didn't vote against gay marriage. Or you could even refrain from advocating for the continuance of the the discriminatory practice and continue voting for Republicans. I don't suggest that this be the one issue that determines who you vote for. But you seem interested in advocating the continued discrimination, so I figured we'd address that before talking about what you could do to help.
 

chrysostom

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You could vote for a Log Cabin Republican. Or you could just write a letter to you Congressman telling them that you'd prefer they didn't vote against gay marriage. Or you could even refrain from advocating for the continuance of the the discriminatory practice and continue voting for Republicans. I don't suggest that this be the one issue that determines who you vote for. But you seem interested in advocating the continued discrimination, so I figured we'd address that before talking about what you could do to help.

I vote republican because of abortion
and
I am not going to waste one minute of my time worrying about a couple of guys living together
 

Silent Hunter

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I, (name), take you (name), to be my (wife/husband), to have and to hold from this day forward, for better or for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish; from this day forward until death do us part.
. . . in which version of the most common christian wedding vows does it say . . . "you must have children"?
 

rexlunae

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I vote republican because of abortion
and

Yes, I understand that. And I don't suggest that you change it over this issue. But there are many things that you could do within the Republican party to help, if you truly did believe in equality. I'm just pointing out that you don't need to support discriminatory marriage policies just so that you can oppose abortion. That's a separate choice that you make.

Did you know that the new law in New York legalizing gay marriage passed because several Republicans were persuaded to vote for it?

I am not going to waste one minute of my time worrying about a couple of guys living together

But you will waste a bunch of your time defending the discrimination against them? Why does it seem like your time is not the real issue?
 

Silent Hunter

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I see you missed my point.
. . . she does that . . . a LOT.

I gave you negative rep because you are hateful, rude and mean spirited about it. Not only that but you praise others for the same behavior! So go ahead and whine to the rest of the forum if it makes you feel better.
. . . good description of IK . . . very good.

. . . being against same-sex marriage is a religious "thing".
 

Town Heretic

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...I am not going to waste one minute of my time worrying about a couple of guys living together

:plain:

Again, marriage is (so far as the state is involved) a contract. Whatever religious or personal gravitas or understanding it carries for the individual is not a matter of legal enforcement. It has parties, terms, statutory definitions and legal particulars that must be followed in dissolution. It carries certain obligations and privileges and has punitive protections for interference from outside parties.

A marriage may but need not consist of more than the immediate parties to it. Children, when and if they become a part of that union, are provided for by statute as regards the obligations of the parties.

As with any contract, some honor it and others don't, irrespective of whether or not children have become an issue.

Any other or additional value beyond the binding of the parties subject to conditions allowing dissolution is entirely subjective and has no bearing on the legal legitimacy of the union.
 

Rusha

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Oh gee, I dunno....because they love each other? :idea:

"What's love got to do, got to do with it
What's love but a second hand emotion
What's love got to do, got to do with it
Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken"
 

Arthur Brain

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"What's love got to do, got to do with it
What's love but a second hand emotion
What's love got to do, got to do with it
Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken"

Thanks. That poxy song is now going through my head as I type....

:plain:
 

Dena

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why should they stay together if there are no children involved?

1. love
2. commitment
3. divorce pretty much sucks for all parties involved and that includes all the family members on both sides

I don't even understand your argument here? My husband and I have been together 10 years, married for five. We do not have any children. We should just get divorced? :confused:
 
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