why people get married is really not the issue here
why the government wants them to get married is
the future depends on children
and
how they are taken care of is important
toldailytopic: Same-sex marriage: for it, or against it?
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why people get married is really not the issue here
why the government wants them to get married is
the future depends on children
and
how they are taken care of is important
with homosexual parents or have homosexual parents
I know many who have a homosexual parent but they are not being taken care of by that homosexual parent
how do you think they came up with a figure like that?
and
do you have any reason to believe it?
alwight
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You seem to be ignoring the part of my post where I went into this.
zoo22
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Look, Chrysostom, the estimate in 2000 was 8-10+ million. Make it a million, I don't care. How many is enough for you to qualify as "very many?"
Like I'd said, I'm not going to run circles or jump through your hoops. Yes, I believe there are many millions of kids with same-sex parents. If you don't believe it, look it up yourself, and let us know.
So, you argue that gay couples don't need marriage because they can't have kids, but then you assume that all gay parents raising kids are married, despite the fact that the vast majority of gay people in the US can't get married in their states.
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You seem to be ignoring the part of my post where I went into this.
we need children to survive
and
our government should encourage those who have them
where did you say that?
I have my own survey
homosexual couples that I know are not taking care of any children
those who have a homosexual parent are not being taken care of by that parent
what are the results of your survey?
So if Dave only knows five Catholic fathers and one of those has a kid he doesn't support he can boldly declare that twenty percent of Catholics are dead beat dads.
You don't fashion rules from the anecdotal. Especially not when people like you with dogmatic bias will tend to see/notice the thing that supports that very thing.
alwight
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Well, I argued that this wasn't the reason why the government supported marriage.
I said it instead took a fiscal and pragmatic position on marriage.
But I really don't think a shortage of babies is all that much of a problem at the moment, do you?
zoo22
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Well, there it is then. A survey's a survey.
Looking out my window right now, I've a surveyed that there's no one outside today. Go figure. No one. Bizarre. Like a dream. If I didn't have you folks communicating with me on TOL, I'd think I was the only one left.
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alwight
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Yes it's raining all over the world according to mine.Well, there it is then. A survey's a survey.
Looking out my window right now, I've a surveyed that there's no one outside today. Go figure. No one. Bizarre. Like a dream. If I didn't have you folks communicating with me on TOL, I'd think I was the only one left.
Well, there it is then. A survey's a survey.
Looking out my window right now, I've a surveyed that there's no one outside today. Go figure. No one. Bizarre. Like a dream. If I didn't have you folks communicating with me on TOL, I'd think I was the only one left.
I note that, apparently, Catholics don't understand statistics and the methodology for establishing a sample.
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alwight
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics
:first: Mark Twain.
:first: Mark Twain.
lying statistics?
how about dishonest reporting?
they concluded same sex parents are better parents because those who adopt have proven to be better parents
the study was based on male/female couples who adopted
how about dishonest reporting?
they concluded same sex parents are better parents because those who adopt have proven to be better parents
the study was based on male/female couples who adopted
Arthur Brain
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I don't believe this. How many more times? As I don't plan on having kids then it's unlikely though possible as things are subject to change. Is that answer now satisfactory?
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Arthur Brain
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Well, I don't know how things work in the state you live in Chrys but over here couples receive benefits that cater for children whether they're married or not...
I don't believe this. How many more times? As I don't plan on having kids then it's unlikely though possible as things are subject to change. Is that answer now satisfactory?
no
the question was
would you consider having children without getting married?
Arthur Brain
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I've just bloody answered you!!!!!! :doh: Unlikely but possible!
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Now if you're just going to do your bog standard tapdance then as Rex said a few pages ago, just buzz off.
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I've just bloody answered you!!!!!! :doh: Unlikely but possible!
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Now if you're just going to do your bog standard tapdance then as Rex said a few pages ago, just buzz off.
would you consider that irresponsible to have children without getting married?
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