Why be so narrow minded as to limit it to adults?
toldailytopic: Does your opinion about homosexuality change if the behavior turns out
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Good and useful link. It is full of information.
Some here say the homosexuality doesn't harm a culture. Well it does. When one perversion is allowed it opens the door for others. America started out with Woodstock and free love. Then now we have homosexuality all over the media.
Here are some other quotes from that link that illustrate the slippery slope effect.
| Kinsey determined, among many things, that children are not harmed by sex with adults and that it can be a positive experience. Old Al even earned his very own Kinsey Institute, still in existence today at Indiana University. As recently as 1998, the APA seemed to agree with Kinsey's assessment, releasing a report that suggested harm caused by child rape was “overstated” and that “the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from their child sexual abuse experiences.” Furthermore, the APA report suggested that the term “child sex abuse” be swapped with “adult-child sex,” indicating, as did Kinsey, that such “intergenerational intimacy” can be “positive.” Isn't “tolerance” wonderful? |
Moral relativism leads down a sickening road whether people want to admit it or not. This where aCultureWarrior is dead on.
Skavau
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By that logic, we should forbid fornication because it can soften attitudes to homosexuality. We should also then forbid masturbation, because it causes fornication which opens the door to homosexuality. We should then ban modelling because it can cause feelings that might lead to temptations that could lead to masturbation that leads to fornication that leads to homosexuality. We should then force attractive men and women to cover up outside because it could lead to some thinking about modelling which leads to masturbation which leads to fornication which leads to homosexuality.
You see how silly that argument is? Keep going and you'll create your own version of Islamist Sharia in no time.
You see how silly that argument is? Keep going and you'll create your own version of Islamist Sharia in no time.
rainee
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I have to say the tv thing is really starting to get on my nerves.
I tried to watch Torchwood and other than an interesting plot it had an agenda of
trying to present homosexual encounters in a sexually provocative way.
This is no longer an issue of homosexuality being accepted but rather of being free to show homosexual porn as acceptable.
I have to believe that all choices involving sex is a brain thing and not genetics.
If homosexuality is not genetic but is not being persecuted in many countries (some still do, I guess) - one question might be why are homosexuals still making a big deal?
I don't like porn mixed in with my sci-fi and homosexual porn makes me think they are corrupted individuals who can't enjoy simple sex and actually want others to be locked in and trapped the way they are.
I tried to watch Torchwood and other than an interesting plot it had an agenda of
trying to present homosexual encounters in a sexually provocative way.
This is no longer an issue of homosexuality being accepted but rather of being free to show homosexual porn as acceptable.
I have to believe that all choices involving sex is a brain thing and not genetics.
If homosexuality is not genetic but is not being persecuted in many countries (some still do, I guess) - one question might be why are homosexuals still making a big deal?
I don't like porn mixed in with my sci-fi and homosexual porn makes me think they are corrupted individuals who can't enjoy simple sex and actually want others to be locked in and trapped the way they are.
genuineoriginal
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Your hatred and bigotry are showing in your inability to understand plain English.
According to the standard in the Bible, no one would be executed since no one would be doing those abominations, including me, because the abominations would not be taught as normal and expected behavior.
If anyone was executed, it would be on the testimony of two or three eyewitnesses. Hearsay would not be allowed.
If a person openly boasts of committing abominations, they would be rebuked, but not executed without two or three eyewitnesses.
If a person openly commits homosexual acts, then there would be enough witnesses to put them to death, but the person doing the abomination would know the consequences beforehand, so it would only be done in public by the insane who want do it to defy society.
Now read what happens when a person is accused without the two or three eyewitnesses:
John 8 3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. |
Your accusations come from your hatred, bigotry, and ignorance, not from the truth.
Here is what God says about it:
Ezekiel 33 13When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it. 14Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right; 15If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die. 16None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live. |
genuineoriginal
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Your own heart tells you how evil and wicked you are.
Why not just repent and turn from your wicked ways?
Skavau
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Right, but that's obviously not the standard society has now. If you could change the law so that adultery and homosexuality was criminalised would you? If so, would you execute people who committed them prior to the new legislation?genuineoriginal said:
You already said this. As if that vindicates anything. The very idea of executing people for adultery and/or homosexuality is appalling regardless of the stringent checks involved.
Rebuked in what way?
You could pass for a Mullah, you know.
Forgive me if I flippantly disregard an evaluation of my character from a crypto-fascist and apologist for eternal torment for thought-crime.
Skavau
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What wicked ways of mine are you referring to?
And what should I repent to? I've already told you that I won't serve the concept of God that you serve.
Real Sorceror
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Doesn't matter to me either way. I suspect the real answer is a mix of both. Some people choose it, while others are genetically predisposed. It occurs in other species of animals, which makes me think theres something more to it than just cognitive choice.
Exactly.
That's interesting. Adult programming is normally available via subscription or PPV. Why would you subscribe to such events?
Skavau
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If he's British, he doesn't have to.
Torchwood BBC 1 9pm.
Seen the first series I have. Mean to watch it all eventually.
genuineoriginal
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Who said anything about eternal torment for thoughts?
:doh:Oh, right! YOU DID.
Your straw man is so small you can hold it in one hand. I guess that makes it easier to knock down.
Hmmm ... I am not British but I think I have the BBC channel. I have never seen the show.
Most cable companies allow for parental control though.
Skavau
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I take it you do believe that all Non-Christians are going to be tortured in hellfire for eternity? What I've seen you post suggests that you do.
That you would even defend eternal torment though regardless of my assessment is still morally contemptible.
genuineoriginal
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It is amazing that the studies show it often happens when the animals are in captivity (an unnatural environment), but when I looked I couldn't find any study which showed that it happens when the animals are in their natural environment.
Of course, that could just be a coincidence.
:think:
Skavau
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Arthur Brain
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You were born 2000+ years too late GO. We don't live under a theocracy anymore and there's plenty other laws we don't have in the present which would have been enforced in earlier times.
Why not move to Saudi Arabia if you want to live under a regime? Most of us in the West value the freedom that comes with it. What consenting adult folk do in their own bedrooms is not illegal and nor is it any of your business, not to say that I condone adultery or cheating either.
Where it comes to views on homosexuality then no, they ain't changed much. I don't tend to think about it much anyway....
genuineoriginal
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So you are saying that most of us in the west hate our neighbors, and you like it that way.
Leviticus 19 16Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the LORD. 17Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. 18Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. |
Arthur Brain
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Um, no, that's not what I'm saying at all GO. Most in the West don't advocate implementing laws infringing upon the freedom of others, provided human and civil rights aren't abused in the process.
EDIT: What you propose isn't "rebuke". It's executing people for failing to live to what you perceive as a moral standard which you think should presumably apply to all of those outside of the church.