toldaily topic: Should Sara Palin run for office in 2012?
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You are a pleasant fellow, are you not?
I am indeed. I'm even getting into the Christmas spirit!
This? This is...this is...medicinal. You know. For that thing I have.
Ah, yes. I had that thing at our work holiday party.
Way I hear it you don't so much have that thing as that thing has you.
Word on the street.
lain:
Originally Posted by Granite
This? This is...this is...medicinal. You know. For that thing I have.
I didn't know that drinking alcohol helped those afflicted with mental illness.
But hey, whatever floats your boat.
This? This is...this is...medicinal. You know. For that thing I have.
I didn't know that drinking alcohol helped those afflicted with mental illness.
But hey, whatever floats your boat.
If Palin ever becomes President of the United States I would then KNOW that the cosmos is basically one very funny joke.
nicholsmom
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No. Even though she'd likely do a much better job than the last three presidents combined, she should not run for president. Lots of folks who would make great presidents shouldn't run for that office...
But Sara's in a great place right now, making a difference. If she runs, she'll be harassed and abused in ways that might just damage her effectiveness.
That really would have been sufficient.
Great. Now I'm typing through coffee stains.
Very, very true.
But let's not drag them into this...
lain:I think she made a difference the day she quit her temp governor job. :thumb:
Atta girl, Sarah! You go and all that...and keep going, I suppose. :think:
But really, is that even possible?
A-n-d scene. :e4e:
nicholsmom
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The issue with Obama's dad concerns the law of that man's country (one that ought not to dictate our law, or how we interpret that law, in the USA) - that law that claimed as a citizen any child born to one of its citizens. So Obama had dual citizenship at birth, bringing in the concern for his loyalties. But as I said in my parenthetical above, that ought not to sway our view of our own laws.
The other thing to note is that Obama's dad STILL is not a citizen of the USA. It's not like the man was ever moving toward such a thing at all. He's a foreigner intent on his loyalty to his own nation. That is a concern because he has, as our president's father, more influence on the president than any other common man. Should it prevent his running for president? No.
However, if we are to be rational and fair, the thing we ought not to do is belittle the concern, because it is the same concern that the founders had in creating the "natural born citizen" rule.
Oh yeah?! Have you seen the death certificate? :mmph:
Hiay Tai. :e4e: How's the holiday going?
So did McCain. He qualified for Panamanian citizenship. He was legally not an American citizen at birth, although most people accept that a revision to the law retroactively gave him his citizenship.
In Rogers v. Bellei the Supreme Court only ruled that "The only part of this section that is mandated by the 14th Amendment is the part giving citizenship to anyone born in the US and subject to its jurisdiction. The Supreme Court, in Rogers v. Bellei, held that the citizenship status of a person born outside the US to an American parent is not constitutionally protected. "
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/law.html
McCain, as you might know, has refused to release his birth certificate. Ironically, Obama is unquestionably an American citizen, but McCain is not, so far as the 14th Amendment is concerned.
Of course, McCain wasn't questioned, but Obama was, for reasons that are obvious.
He's not a citizen of anywhere. He's dead. Is there a point here?
We should heap ridicule and scorn on the "concern", which is clearly motivated by the horror that someone who is "not our kind" was elected president.
You realize you're just repeating some nonsense somebody made up, right?
taikoo
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Oh yeah?! Have you seen the death certificate? :mmph:
Hiay Tai. :e4e: How's the holiday going?
I heard that he is deeply involved with something in area 51 but that it is best for the public to believe that he died while driving a steamboat up the Congo to some remote trading post.
Holiday wise, we are going to have Christmas dinner with the inlaws. Nobody trusts a vegetarian to cook turkey i guess.
Hows things with yours?
Nydhogg
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She raises a VERY good point.
Even if he still were alive, he holds no influence whatsoever on Obama. They didn't speak to each other much, and Obama Sr. died when he was a young kid.
The Berean
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I believe Obama met his father for the last time at age 11.
I told you putting bones in turkey shaped tofu was going to backfire on you last year. And there you are.
You know, the usual...
I have a live eight and a half foot Green Giant Arborvitae sitting in my parlor. I may snap a photo of it once the decorations are done. I'm still figuring out where on the acreage I mean to plant it the day after Christmas...and this is as late as I can recall decorating, but things have been hectic at the Heretic household.
Tonight continues our movie tradition (last night was A Christmas Carol) that will end with the traditional watching of The Little Drummer Boy and It's a Wonderful Life on Christmas Eve.
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