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Not according to the foundation's rules.
Which one gave Hillary Clinton that kind of money? The Clinton Foundation got money, but you realize that money isn't hers, right?
As you see, it leads you into irrational conclusions about people Trump hates.
(Bararian notes that Trump did with his charity, exactly what his followers falsely accused Clinton of doing)
Used it for his own slush fund.
How?
President Trump's charity foundation funneled $100,000 in donations meant for St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital into revenue for the Trump Organization by using his son's charity, Forbes reported Tuesday.
For 10 years Eric Trump hosted an annual golf tournament that raised millions of dollars in donations for the hospital. According to the Forbes report, $100,000 of the donations was funneled through the Eric Trump Foundation back into Trump's golf courses for expenses incurred during the tournaments, despite donors being told that all their money would be used for charity.
In addition, more than $500,000 of donors' money over 10 years was re-donated to other charities, including some that were connected to Trump family members. At least four of those organizations also used Trump golf courses for charity tournaments.
According to the report, President Trump himself gave the order for the Trump Organization to begin billing the Eric Trump Foundation for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
If the report is true, the practices would violate both New York state law and federal law on self-dealing and misleading donors. To date, Eric Trump has raised more than $11 million for St. Jude's hospital.
In December, President Trump announced plans to dissolve his charitable foundation in order to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest. But New York's attorney general said that was impossible until a criminal probe of the charity was completed.
"The Trump Foundation is still under investigation by this office and cannot legally dissolve until that investigation is complete,” Amy Spitalnick, a spokeswoman for New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, said in a statement to The Hill in December.
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...neled-100k-in-donation-into-revenue-for-trump
Hard to say. What we know, is that the bulk of the money went to Trump.
Perhaps looking for a better deal for Putin. How did that work out for him? Right.
Clinton Development Initiative staff in Africa train rural farmers and help them get access to seeds, equipment and markets for their crops.
Clinton Climate Initiative staff help governments in Africa and the Caribbean region with reforestation efforts, and in island nations to help develop renewable energy projects.
Staff at the Clinton Health Access Initiative, an independent, affiliated entity, work in dozens of nations to lower the cost of HIV/AIDS medicine, scale up pediatric AIDS treatment and promote treatment of diarrhea through life-saving Zinc/ORS treatment.
Clinton Health Matters staff work with local governments and businesses in the United States to develop wellness and physical activity plans.
To bolster its case, CARLY for America noted that the Clinton Foundation spent 12 percent of its revenue on travel and conferences and 20 percent of its revenue on salaries. That’s true. But the Form 990 specifically breaks out those travel, conference and salary expenses that are used for “program service expenses” versus those that are used for management or fundraising purposes.
For example, nearly 77 percent of the $8.4 million spent on travel in 2013 went toward program services; 3.4 percent went to “management and general expenses”; and about 20 percent went to fundraising.
As for conferences, nearly 98 percent of money spent was tabbed as a programming expense. And when it comes to salaries — which includes pension plan contributions, benefits and payroll taxes — about 73 percent went to program service expenses.
https://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/
It's really time for this nonsense to end. The Clinton Foundation is a public charity, which means that it is subject to auditing requirements, and a formal governance structure. In addition, it is subjected to review for their use of funds, and it consistently gets good marks for low overhead, high rates of funds going to charitable programs.
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=16680
You simply cannot use the charity to launder a whole bunch of money without raising huge red flags. It's convenient to use it to paint Hillary Clinton in a certain way, because there are a lot of people who want to hate her and assume that she's corrupt, but it's just implausible absent some explanation of how she's skirting all of the accountability mechanisms in place.
If the Clintons are somehow using their family foundation to launder money, they've found a way to get around these transparency mechanisms with hardly a peep. And that would be genuinely impressive.
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I don't have connections to people I've sold real estate to.
I put it on the market, someone bought it, we may have never met face to face.
Because he wanted it. Trump actually reduced the price before he got a buyer. And then the guy bulldozed the house and subdivided. The Russian will make money AFTER he bulldozed the house with the Gold Toilets.
Was Trump supposed to be laundering money for the Russian or was the Russian laundering money for Trump?
Well, they signed up for get rich quick so.....
They gave them a lesson in selling stuff.
How many oligarchs have given you a $55 million tip on a real estate transaction?
$55 million...because he wanted to? Yeah, sure, that tracks. Because Russian oligarchs are notoriously generous?
So? It's not the price until you close the sale.
That doesn't explain overpaying in the first place. You've got a savvy ruthless oligarch, and a bankrupt real estate developer with a penchant for tacky and an addiction to a certain lifestyle, and the oligarch plays the chump? I don't think so.
Trump is laundering money for Russians and other kleptocrats.
63 is a lot of Russians for a President who has assured the American public that he has no connections with Russians - and who knows how many more have bought Trump properties using "shell" and numbered companies where the true owner remains unknown!
Trump's connection with Russian money and those with criminal backgrounds is a reoccuring theme!
Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Michael Flynn and George Papadopoulos were all members of the Trump Campaign, had Russian connections and are currently facing criminal charges - 2 of the 4 have already pled guilty!
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I notice that fool has gone silent, having received several substantive rebuttals on the subjects he raised from various folks here. I predict that he will not respond in substance, but will be back in a few days in another thread to make the same debunked claims, as if he'd never received any response.
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As all of this comes out, Trump's lawyers are getting more and more concerned. This is another reason they desperately don't want Trump talking to Mueller.
Trump thinks he smart enough to handle it. And that's exactly what has them concerned.
Technically, Trump has a character disorder. His narcissism leads him to think he's smart enough to handle Mueller's questioning.
As all of this comes out, Trump's lawyers are getting more and more concerned. This is another reason they desperately don't want Trump talking to Mueller.
Trump thinks he smart enough to handle it. And that's exactly what has them concerned.
Technically, Trump has a character disorder. His narcissism leads him to think he's smart enough to handle Mueller's questioning.
What you fail to understand friends is that salesmen are at the top of the food chain. Not politicians, not lawyers, not actors but sales people. Trump has taken the political pundits and their ideology and it has gone up in smoke. Same thing for the lawyers just wait and see my friends. Trump proves that the best and brightest are not in Washington. Hillary, Obama, Bushes, chump change.
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Not nearly enough IMO.
Trump bought it for 40 and put 25 into it, plus held it for 4 years which is 4 million in taxes so Trump is 69 million into this thing that was appraised at 65 before he bought it.
So there's 26 million for Trump when he sells it for 95.
The Russian started out at 75 but Trump wouldn't take it.
They gave the Clinton Foundation 140 million and didn't want anything in return right?
The value of something is what someone will pay for it.
He made money AFTER he bulldozed the 60,000 sq ft house. So not a chump. He made money just like Trump did and Liberals can't stand that.
HOW? Trump makes 26 and pays 20% tax on that so there's 21 million left profit for Trump. Let's say he's going to kick some back to the Russian, how does he do it? And why? there's nothing magic about the money after he's spent it with Trump, if it was dirty before it's still dirty and now everyone knows about it. How do you figure Trump is laundering money for them?
A much more likely scenario is that the Russian is laundering for Trump. Let's say Trump has a bunch of gold that he can't explain how he came by. He could install solid gold toilets in the mansion and say they were gold plated, or just stack the gold up inside a wall so the Russian is really buying 69 million worth of Mansion and 26 million worth of gold that nobody knows about.
If you offer real estate for sale to the public you can't discriminate on basis of natural origin. That would be illegal.
63 is a lot of Russians for a President who has assured the American public that he has no connections with Russians - and who knows how many more have bought Trump properties using "shell" and numbered companies where the true owner remains unknown!
Trump's connection with Russian money and those with criminal backgrounds is a reoccuring theme!
Why then, do people refer to them a "bottom feeders?"
Among the professions surveyed in the recent National Survey of Drug Use and Health, Sales ranked #11 for jobs that can lead to depression, with a rate of 6.7 percent. I don’t know a single sales veteran who hasn’t slammed hard into an emotional wall somewhere. Superheroes? Not at all.
http://contrarydomino.com/2015/10/mental-health-for-salespeople-a-topic-that-needs-a-discussion/
More Willy Loman than Gordon Gekko, it seems.
I have a Wife, Four Children, A Dog, A Cat, A House, Four Vehicles And a Job that sustains them all.
I would love to have more time to argue with you knuckleheads but other obligations sometimes interfere. Please accept my apologies in advance.
Trump has been sued countless times and deposed before. He does a fine job of being vague, there's tapes.
They don't care what you refer to them as, they making money.