That was my point—“as far as we can tell”. But that applies not just to whether Paul fits Peter’s standards, but also to whether the twelve thrones or twelve foundations are filled according to Peter’s or someone else’s standard.
I think that He's talking about the world in it's current state.
He's making a distinction between two realms that both just as real.
Right, it was not time for it yet, it will come at a later time.
Right, but He definitely is sitting on throne in another realm.
When He returns to "this world", there will definitely be a battle.
Yes, one He fights in the earthly realm.
So.... getting back to the OP...
Can you not show me where Peter and Paul were preaching the same gospel as you've claimed?
Exactly, and then something happened to change that.
That doesn’t mean it wasn’t the same gospel. It just means the 12 were woefully stuck in their old ways, which wasn’t a detriment at first, since they were doing the Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria part of their commission. They had trouble moving on to the “ends of the earth” part. And that would mean, obviously, that they DID know about the grace of God toward their Gentiles, but they didn’t know what it would look like.
Good. Thanks for the clarification. So that part of your two gospels is the same?
Which also is obvious, based on Rom 11 and others. But couldn’t their be people that were both of Israel and the BOC? Like Paul, Timothy, Barnabas, Silas?
That’s Paul taking some kind of message to the Gentiles. Are you saying he wasn’t preaching the gospel to them when he did so?
Why is that such good news on a parallel with the gospel of grace?
That is, quite frankly, ridiculous.
Those are not "part of the two gospels". They are general principles that pre-date an gospel.
Of course. But if they are part of the body of Christ, they do not have a place in the earthly kingdom where there is a distinction between Jew and gentile.
Who said such a thing? Not me.
The Lord did good when He chose Paul. In fact, in my recent study of the Greek, I found that this particular "chosen" is not like any of the others. It means "divinely chosen".
It does have to be a similar level if you withhold one from a group that could benefit by it, in order to only give them the other, which you’ve just admitted is less beneficial to them.
How could it be end of story before they realized Christ had to die? Listen, I’m not sure about whether one might call what they preached prior to Jesus’ death a different gospel—I might be able to go along with that. But once they understood the death and resurrection was part of the plan, it was incorporated into the gospel they were preaching. Thus you can’t say that Paul and Peter were preaching different gospels at the same time, but only if you compare Peter’s old gospel to Paul’s new gospel. But why would anyone make a thread about that? Your thread presupposes that the two different gospels are being preached at the same time.
Different from what? Isn’t it the other CONCURRENT gospel?