ECT The Roman Catholic "Religion"

Old man

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You mean, "other than what the Bible says..."

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Is the proof found in the Bible that the Apostle Peter actually came to Rome and founded the Roman catholic church (religion)?

If so, Book, Chapter and Verses please. If just another of the RCC's many fables to reach a claim, forget it.
 

Bright Raven

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Is the proof found in the Bible that the Apostle Peter actually came to Rome and founded the Roman catholic church (religion)?

If so, Book, Chapter and Verses please. If just another of the RCC's many fables to reach a claim, forget it.

Hmmmm. Yes, Book, Chapter and Verse. But he can't produce. It is a fable.
 

Cruciform

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If it is truth, which it's not, produce Book, Chapter and Verse.
If the basis of your demand is truth, which it's not, produce chapter-and-verse for the assumption that "Everything a Christian believes and does must be spelled out explicitly in the Bible."

Back to Post #45 above.
 

Old man

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Name another religious group in history---besides the Catholic Church--- that actually fits the biblical paradigm of Christ's one historic Church.

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That is an evading tactic, answering a question with a question. Which means you can not show from the Bible that the Apostle Peter had anything whatsoever to do with the origin of your so called Christ's one historic church.

In the NT it is the "Church of God" that is Christ's one and only historic Church which predates your man made catholic religion.
 

chrysostom

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That is an evading tactic, answering a question with a question. Which means you can not show from the Bible that the Apostle Peter had anything whatsoever to do with the origin of your so called Christ's one historic church.

In the NT it is the "Church of God" that is Christ's one and only historic Church which predates your man made catholic religion.

we have more than just the bible
we have a real church in rome
and
it has been there for nearly 2000 years

it is not imaginary
it is real
 

Old man

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we have more than just the bible
we have a real church in rome
and
it has been there for nearly 2000 years

it is not imaginary
it is real

Have you ever got that right! You catholics HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN JUST THE BIBLE, you have created a whole man made religion outside of the Bible which of its self has very little to do with your religion.

As for your 2000 years, no, much longer, catholicism is nothing but Babylonian-ism dressed up in new wrappings and presented as Christian.
 

chrysostom

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You catholics HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN JUST THE BIBLE, you have created a whole man made religion outside of the Bible which of its self has very little to do with your religion.

your bible is man made
and
the men were catholic
 
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Cruciform

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That is an evading tactic, answering a question with a question.
Your utter inability to name any valid non-Catholic alternative which fulfills the biblical Church paradigm is noted.

Which means you can not show from the Bible that the Apostle Peter had anything whatsoever to do with the origin of your so called Christ's one historic Church.
Already answered here. Also see this.

In the NT it is the "Church of God" that is Christ's one and only historic Church which predates your man made Catholic religion.
Both the very same Church.


By the way, you "forgot" to provide the info requested in Post #47 above... :think:



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Old man

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you bible is man made
and
the men were catholic

Wrong!
The Apostles of the inspired NT Scriptures were no more catholic than is a gaggle of geese.

You do know what the "inspired" Word of God as written by the Apostles of Christ means I hope.

Why do you catholics place more faith in words of the vatican than in Words of the Holy Bible?
 

Old man

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Feel free, then, to actually disprove my statement.

There again, it does no good to ask for Scriptural proof from you catholics.

Like, weekly sunday observance, annual easter and xmass celebrating, no such traditions found in the Scriptures, Christ nor the Apostles show no record of observing your non-Scripture traditions which are all traceable back to pagan origins.

Sunday, the sun-gods-day.

easter, the pagans queen of heaven (your mary) spring equinox.

Dec. 25, xmass the annul rebirth of the sun-god, winter saturnalia.

All pagan to the core!!!
 
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Cruciform

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There again, it does no good to ask for Scriptural proof from you Catholics.
You're the one who needs to provide proof (Post #57).

Like, weekly sunday observance, annual easter and xmass celebrating, no such traditions found in the Scriptures...
In fact, Sunday worship is indeed reflected in the New Testament. Also, believers have celebrated both Christ's Nativity (birth) and his Resurrection from the very beginning of the early Church. In any case, none of these is a doctrine of the Christian faith, so your complaint that they (supposedly) aren't taught in Scripture simply falls flat.

Christ nor the Apostles show no record of observing your non-Scripture traditions which are all traceable back to pagan origins.
Besides simply being wrong, you need to Google the term "Genetic Fallacy," since that is the particular logical error you're committing here.



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Old man

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"Babylonian and pagan roots of the Catholic Church"

The RCC tries to always lead the people to read Catholic history of Christianity, by this they try to testify that they are the same thing as the early church, which they are not in any way.

The RCC church history is mainly written by Catholic and therefore, its emphasis is Catholic and distortions are also of Catholic origin.


www.kotipetripaavola.com/catholicchurchbabylonianpaganroots.html


A man made religion (cult)!
 
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