The Pope is Pro-homo, and that's bad

[RVK]

The democrats do in the US, as early as 5th grade.

Proponents of societally acceptable/legal pedophilia argue otherwise.

And one of their arguments is the one that you made above.

I disagree with the democrats then. And I certainly disagree with proponents of legal pedophilia. As much as I enjoy talking about pedophilia I feel as though the discussion has gotten sidetracked.

 

[ok doser]

I disagree with the democrats then. And I certainly disagree with proponents of legal pedophilia. As much as I enjoy talking about pedophilia I feel as though the discussion has gotten sidetracked.

I brought pedophilia and rape into the discussion because they are also sexual perversions. All 3 were recognized as gravely wrong behaviors in my youth, All 3 have become accepted to some degree during my lifetime.

 

[RVK]

How do you view the debate about abortion?

For me it is a really difficult issue and I certainly see the reasoning on either side. I guess I ultimately believe that a woman has the right to her body. I am certainly not pro-abortion (I. think very few people are), but I am pro-choice.

 

[RVK]

I brought pedophilia and rape into the discussion because they are also sexual perversions. All 3 were recognized as gravely wrong behaviors in my youth, All 3 have become accepted to some degree during my lifetime.

Fair enough... I would not put homosexuality in the same category as the other two. I think it is a good thing homosexuality is now pretty widely accepted. As for the other two, I haven't seen rape or pedophilia becoming accepted personally (not to see it hasn't) but I would agree that those actions are wrong.

 

[Right Divider]

I would disagree,

I don't care.

the Bible isn't a great book to base your morality

Wrong.

 

[Right Divider]

For me it is a really difficult issue and I certainly see the reasoning on either side. I guess I ultimately believe that a woman has the right to her body.

The child also has a body and about half of them are women.

I am certainly not pro-abortion (I. think very few people are), but I am pro-choice.

Pro-choice is pretty much pro-abortion.

 

[RVK]

The child also has a body and about half of them are women.

Pro-choice is pretty much pro-abortion.

Like I said this is a difficult topic. Here is my line of thinking, the baby needs the mother to survive, and will take nutrients from her to continue to grow. If a woman does not want that happening inside of her I understand that. It is her body being used, so I think she should get to decide.

Pro-choice and pro-abortion are very similar. What I meant by that is I would never encourage abortion, but I believe that that choice is one that a woman and the people close to her get to make.

 

[JudgeRightly]

What is your issue with homosexuality?

It's an abomination to God. That's my issue with it.

And why would it be a bad thing for someone in a position of power to show them respect?

Because it's an abomination to God.

 

[RVK]

It's an abomination to God. That's my issue with it.



Because it's an abomination to God.

If you are using the Bible to justify this then do you also have no issues with slavery?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Fair enough... I would not put homosexuality in the same category as the other two. I think it is a good thing homosexuality is now pretty widely accepted. As for the other two, I haven't seen rape or pedophilia becoming accepted personally (not to see it hasn't) but I would agree that those actions are wrong.

That's because rape and paedophilia haven't become 'widely accepted' and they never will be for obvious reasons.

 

[JudgeRightly]

I just like discussions. I also see no issue with people being gay,

You should.

homosexuality is a natural occurrence.

Only for animals.

Humans are not animals.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Fair point, but those occurrences actively harm other people physically. Being gay doesn't.

Yes, it does.

It harms people by breaking down societal boundaries.

 

[JudgeRightly]

I would disagree, the Bible isn't a great book to base your morality

It's the ONLY book you can base your morality on, and remain consistent.

 

[RVK]

You should.



Only for animals.

Humans are not animals.

I would fundamentally disagree, humans are animals. We evolved just like every other species from a common ancestor.

 

[JudgeRightly]

It is not perfectly aligned with humanism, but it is somewhere along those lines.

If I took something from you, without asking, would you be offended?

 

[JudgeRightly]

In terms of consensual pedophilia, I do not think a child is mature enough to give consent in sexual matters. So in that respect there is no such thing as consensual pedophilia.

What do you base that on?

 

[JudgeRightly]

For me it is a really difficult issue and I certainly see the reasoning on either side. I guess I ultimately believe that a woman has the right to her body. I am certainly not pro-abortion (I. think very few people are), but I am pro-choice.

Does the baby have a right to his own body?

 

[JudgeRightly]

Fair enough... I would not put homosexuality in the same category as the other two. I think it is a good thing homosexuality is now pretty widely accepted. As for the other two, I haven't seen rape or pedophilia becoming accepted personally (not to see it hasn't) but I would agree that those actions are wrong.

Good according to what?

Wrong according to what?

 

[JudgeRightly]

Like I said this is a difficult topic. Here is my line of thinking, the baby needs the mother to survive, and will take nutrients from her to continue to grow. If a woman does not want that happening inside of her I understand that. It is her body being used, so I think she should get to decide.

I'm glad that you recognize that it's a baby in the womb.

But what about the baby? Does the baby have a choice on who he or she takes nutrients from?

Pro-choice and pro-abortion are very similar. What I meant by that is I would never encourage abortion, but I believe that that choice is one that a woman and the people close to her get to make.

But you won't give the same consideration to the baby?

 

[JudgeRightly]

If you are using the Bible to justify this then do you also have no issues with slavery?

Depends on the kind of slavery.

There's the kind used as a punishment for crime, and there's the kind based on kidnapping. The former is just, and the latter is a crime.