Silent Hunter
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Hey, thanks! 43 x 3 minute exposures. Sky Watcher Esprit 100 ED Triplet. ZWO ASI2600MC camera. At Big Cypress Nationl Preserve, Florida. Here's another couple.
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The origin of the universe cannot be determined scientifically
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Silent Hunter
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1. I Googled it. Try it sometime.
2. They're not.
3. You don't know enough if "my version of a deity did it" is all you have in your scientific arsenal. "I don't know" is the better answer in lieu of the unknown.
Your whole "argument" is "there are problems with a SCIENTIFIC theory, therefore, something". Even if the BBT was shown to be totally incorrect it doesn't mean your version of a deity is responsible by default. It isn't even close.
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Right Divider
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You're a hoot!
Yes, they are.
Again, you're a HOOT!
There are multiple explanations for the origin of the universe.
The "big bang" has tons of problems, some of which the Creation Model does not have an issue with.
Only because your world view precludes Him. The actual facts have no problem with Creation.
Right Divider
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The beauty of God's creation!
There is a direct method to estimate a star's distance called parallax, which is done by noting the apparent shift of a body's position against the background as the Earth moves around the sun. Basic trig and Pythagoras. This method is only practical for relatively close stars.
For stars more distant they use assumptions about size and luminosity based on light spectrums and blue or red shift. It would take a bit of work to break down those assumptions to form a substantive challenge to the establishment ideas of galactic distances, but it might be a worthwhile effort.
Barry Setterfield does some good work.
Silent Hunter
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1. I'm the funniest person I know.
2. No. The ages of stars are totally independent of the BBT.
3. Not as outrageously funny as the average creationist. All bluster, no substance.
4. Sure. I'm not bothered by it. Why are you?
5. Yours doesn't work without invoking your personal preferred version of a diety to fill in for whatever you don’t know or understand. I'm comfortable with I don’t (yet) know.
6. Don't pretend to know what I think about the nature of the Universe.
7. Until you have sufficient evidence, beyond, "The "big bang" has tons of problems", your personal preferred version of a diety was involved with the Universe in ANY way you have zip.
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Silent Hunter
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Technology was more involved than your personal preferred version of a diety.
Silent Hunter
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There are a number of methods to ESTIMATE stellar/galactic distances. Except for the closest few hundred stars all other distances are educated estimates... guesses.
Right Divider
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I don't have "a personally preferred version of a diety", I just go with the real thing.
You do know that you just repeated what I said, right?
Silent Hunter
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Yet have absolutely no evidence of its existence.
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Silent Hunter
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In two sentences and a lot fewer words. Pretending to know what is unknown/unknowable is delusional, insisting goddidit to fill the gaps.
Right Divider
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Not true.
Silent Hunter
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Yet avoid EVER presenting any. Do you have a hair follicle so as to examine its DNA?
Right Divider
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Your insults to God are not even clever or cute.
Silent Hunter
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You take offense where none was intended. Now, about that evidence...
Right Divider
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Your insult was obvious to anyone that can read.
There is plenty of evidence; you have just closed your eyes tight. I will not attempt to open them.
Silent Hunter
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1. Your perception and my intent are mutually exclusive, compare W. Smith and C. Rock.
2. An infinite amount of nothing is still not much.
Right Divider
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No thanks
There is plenty of evidence to those that do not bury their head in the sand.
Silent Hunter
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1. Didn't watch the Oscars, don't watch the news... check.
2. Looked for the evidence of the Christian deity (and all other deities) in the sand on the beach in Florida. None found. Perhaps California?