Epoisses
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Where did I say that ? Show us the quote or admit you just lied and misrepresented what I posted !
Who's this us you keep talking about?
You sound like Gollum from the Lord of the Rings.
Where did I say that ? Show us the quote or admit you just lied and misrepresented what I posted !
Clarify your post.
Show us the quote or admit you just lied and misrepresented what I posted !So you say that only Jews can be saved through Christ?
Where did I say that ? Show us the quote or admit you just lied and misrepresented what I posted !
:duh: Read post 469!!!
So you say that only Jews can be saved through Christ?
Lk 19:9-10
9 And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.
10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
Christ came to seek and to save not all without exception, but all who are of the Chosen Seed of Abraham ! Ps 105:6
O ye seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his chosen.
This passage in Lk 19 surely indicates this. The man Zacchaeus, because he was blessed to be of that Chosen Seed, Salvation came to his house, as a result of the Seeking Son of man, Note: Those Christ came to save, He seeks them until He finds them, and confers His Salvation Upon them !
That Christ came to seek and to save only a Chosen People called Israel, He clearly states that here Matt 15:24
24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
What can be more plainer stated, that He was sent ONLY to the Lost Sheep of Israel !
24 Jesus replied, “I’ve been sent only to the lost sheep, the people of Israel.”[CEB]
24 He said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Isra’el.”[CJB]
24 Jesus answered, “God sent me only to the lost people of Israel.”[ERV]
24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”[ESV]
Now what does the word only mean ?
He was sent only once by the Father into the World, so He must be Talking about that sending here 1 Jn 4:9
In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we [ The Lost Sheep of Israel] might live through him.
With that in Mind, all other portions stating about Christ being sent for Saving Purposes Jn 3:17
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
The World here must be the World of the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel, or we have a contradiction with Matt 15:24 ! You see, we must understand the more specific over the general. Yes Jn 3:17 speaks of a World to Save which does not preclude that World being the House of Israel !
Your post BL 57. The Jews are the lost sheep of Israel and He came to preach to them. And only means only. Now clarify your post and stop dodging the question.
So you say that only Jews can be saved through Christ?
Where did I say this?
Show the quote or admit that you intentionally lied and misrepresented what I posted !
I've come to the conclusion that you can't comprehend what you read let alone having the ability to read. Wake up and smell the coffee. You said what you said, admit it and be done with it.
So you say that only Jews can be saved through Christ?
So you say that only Jews can be saved through Christ? Wrong! How were you saved? Jesus died for all but not all accept his redemptive act.
It's pretty simple.
John 3:16
King James Version (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Another popular Myth in the religious world today, is the Jesus Christ died or gave His Life for everyone in the world without exception, but the problem with that, is there is not one shred of scripture evidence that states that.
The scripture however does say that He died for His Sheep or His Church as per Jn 10:
11I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
eph 5:
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
His People Isa 53:
8He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. cp Matt 1:21
Now, are all without exception His Sheep ? No
Are all without exception His Church ? No
Are all without exception His People ? No
For surely the seed of the serpent Gen 3:15 cannot be of His Sheep, His Church, or His People.
So why does the religous world proclaim that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception, when they have no scripture proof ? Because it is a Myth.
I agree with the OP.
Where does this say that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception ?
Whosoever shall believe shall receive.
whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life. Jn 3:16
Ok, I have no quarrels with Jn 3:16 !