beloved57
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Greetings again beloved57 and clefty, On reflection, I considered that this could be the case. I was not sure if you, or Nanja who often echoes what you say, have a simple explanation of Matthew 5:3 and Matthew 5:5 as to whether these are speaking of the same people, the faithful from Eden unto the Second Coming and beyond. Also whether their destiny is the same, using different terms to describe the ultimate destiny of these faithful. Possibly Jesus unravels your unusual views in his usual few succinct words.
I consider that there is a resurrection of some only, that is those “responsible” (my term) to judgement, basically those who have heard and understood the gospel. The righteous, that is those justified by faith and forgiven, will be those who have responded to the gospel and lived a life in conformity, while those rejected at this first resurrection and judgement seat are those who have not lived in conformity to the Gospel.
I am happy with my perspective, blending many of the prominent prophecies to form a reasonable overall perspective. I am ready to adjust some of the details of my understanding of these as the actual events unfold.
At the same time as suggested above.
No, I do not believe in heaven going, but the faithful are resurrected to inherit the Land.
I view the sequence of the above is that Jesus returns, raises the dead and judges these raised and the living “responsible”, and invites the faithful to hide for a little moment as the time of trouble increases, and then Jesus and the faithful go forth to subdue the nations at Armageddon and beyond, and then the Kingdom is established for the 1000 years.
I would also emphasise the following:
Isaiah 26:9–10 (KJV): 9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. 10 Let favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD.
I apply this to the period surrounding Armageddon and beyond leading up to full establishment of the Kingdom. My understanding is that you believe that the nations will be destroyed and the earth burnt.
For example Assyria, Babylon, Greece and Rome have had rule over Israel, but the rulers and oppressors have died, and the majority of these, unbelievers in the Gospel, will not rise in the resurrection. They are perished. This is true of most people who are not at all interested in the Gospel.
Yes, I am extremely interested in the Name and titles of the Deity in both the OT and NT. You would need to elaborate, but what translation of Exodus 3:14 do you accept?
Why do you use the term reich, as it has a bad history? This "Earth" and "New Earth"is the 1000 years reign of Jesus and he will sit upon the Throne of David in the Temple, as King Priest.
Kind regards
Trevor
Matt 5:3,5 are talking about the one Body of Christ