The Great Persecution has Begun even in the USA
Right...Which I'm sure all happen at the same house on a weekly basis.
Right...Which I'm sure all happen at the same house on a weekly basis.
The Great Persecution has Begun even in the USA
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annabenedetti
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Are you talking about this guy?
"So let's make sure we're clear. Mr. Salman knew he was breaking the law and did it anyway. He is a willful lawbreaker for Jesus. All along, he knew he was building a church, but he lied to the city and told them he was building a game room. He lied because he knew he was doing something illegal."
A synonym isn't a correction.
Donald Trump?
Net or gross?
And he would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids. :IA:
annabenedetti
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More from the link, about the man THall says was "arrested for having Bible studies in his home."
Mr. Salman had regular gatherings of up to 80 people. He held services twice a week and collected a tithe at the services.
He held himself out as a being a church through the media (Harvest Christian Church) and claimed a church status for tax exemption purposes on his property.
All houses of worship in the City of Phoenix must conform to the same codes.
Due to the regular, reoccurring high vehicular traffic in this quiet residential neighborhood, neighbors repeatedly complained about the public assembly occurring on his property. Because of the multiple, reoccurring complaints, the City investigated the activity and discovered numerous building code violations primarily related to fire safety standards. Once apprised of these violations, the City could be held liable for not enforcing safety code requirements in the event anyone was injured on the premises. Prior to commencement of prosecution, Mr. Salman was asked, repeatedly, to comply with the safety codes of the City. He chose to ignore these requests for voluntary compliance prior to the commencement of any proceedings.
Mr. Salman's interaction regarding his property dates back to 2006, when he was advised by the Zoning Administrator that his property was analogous to a church and required compliance with the Zoning Ordinance.
In the Fall of 2007, Mr. Salman is notified several times by the City that he needs to obtain the proper permits and approvals before holding church services on his property.
In 2008, Mr. Salman's church, Harvest Christian Fellowship Community Church, is issued a Building Permit to construct a 2,000 square foot private game room accessory to an existing single family residence. The permit states, "Any other occupancy or use (business, commercial, assembly, church, etc.) is expressly prohibited pursuant to the City of Phoenix Building Code and Zoning Ordinances."
On January 4, 2010, Harvest Christian Fellowship Community Church is found responsible for 96 civil code violations. The Court notes, "[T]he State is not saying the Salmans can't run a church or have worship services at the location, but the State is saying that if they do so, they must do it properly and in accord with the building, fire, and zoning codes."
Mr. Salman had regular gatherings of up to 80 people. He held services twice a week and collected a tithe at the services.
He held himself out as a being a church through the media (Harvest Christian Church) and claimed a church status for tax exemption purposes on his property.
All houses of worship in the City of Phoenix must conform to the same codes.
Due to the regular, reoccurring high vehicular traffic in this quiet residential neighborhood, neighbors repeatedly complained about the public assembly occurring on his property. Because of the multiple, reoccurring complaints, the City investigated the activity and discovered numerous building code violations primarily related to fire safety standards. Once apprised of these violations, the City could be held liable for not enforcing safety code requirements in the event anyone was injured on the premises. Prior to commencement of prosecution, Mr. Salman was asked, repeatedly, to comply with the safety codes of the City. He chose to ignore these requests for voluntary compliance prior to the commencement of any proceedings.
Mr. Salman's interaction regarding his property dates back to 2006, when he was advised by the Zoning Administrator that his property was analogous to a church and required compliance with the Zoning Ordinance.
In the Fall of 2007, Mr. Salman is notified several times by the City that he needs to obtain the proper permits and approvals before holding church services on his property.
In 2008, Mr. Salman's church, Harvest Christian Fellowship Community Church, is issued a Building Permit to construct a 2,000 square foot private game room accessory to an existing single family residence. The permit states, "Any other occupancy or use (business, commercial, assembly, church, etc.) is expressly prohibited pursuant to the City of Phoenix Building Code and Zoning Ordinances."
On January 4, 2010, Harvest Christian Fellowship Community Church is found responsible for 96 civil code violations. The Court notes, "[T]he State is not saying the Salmans can't run a church or have worship services at the location, but the State is saying that if they do so, they must do it properly and in accord with the building, fire, and zoning codes."
Nazaroo
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Oh meddling neighbours and oversized government,
who can stay mad at you?
What would Jesus do?
TracerBullet
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those engaging in the behaviors that led to the comeuppance already harbor ill will.
TracerBullet
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Oh meddling neighbours and oversized government,
who can stay mad at you?
What would Jesus do?
he wouldn't be pretending that someone purposefully breaking the law for his own gain is some sort of victium
Yes, and I am sure that Christ sought all the proper
permits when he fed thousands while preaching.
You are your own special kind of Big Government Hack.
You are the kind of idiot that would have demanded
John the Baptist get a permit from the local Government
to Baptize Christ. So .........Would you have made him get
a permit as a life guard? Or a River Occupancy Permit? Or
would have had the EPA fine him for entering the river without
showering first?:kookoo::kookoo::kookoo:
Quetzal
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This... this isn't even close to the same thing! What is it with you evangelical nutcases and your atrocious comparisons!
annabenedetti
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:chuckle:
If you've finished falling all over yourself trying to change the subject, I'll remind you that your guy wasn't "arrested for having Bible studies in his home."
Ever heard of the "Tyranny of the Majority".....thank Zues we're finally chipping away at that one!
The Berean
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:chuckle: Well...I have to admit it's a family tradition that if we do "feel persecuted", we are obliged to return the feeling.
The Berean
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That's what I figured. No one wants to end up like Moe Green, right? :think:
I wonder if they make bullet proof eye-glasses yet? :think:
The Berean
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People are trying! They should call the first practical bulletproof sub glasses the "Moe Green Special". :chuckle:
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