The curse of the law was death. And the curse for those not under the law is death.
Death is not a blessing, it is a curse.
The Gospel Verses the Catholic Church
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The curse of the law was death. And the curse for those not under the law is death.
Death is not a blessing, it is a curse.
James was a Judaizer. A judaizer is one that believes in Jesus but also believes that you must keep the law of Moses.
This Forum consist of heretics, unbelievers and religious reprobates. The fisher is one of them.
I may be one of those heretics ha But I hope that doesn't mean we can't have good conversations and pick at each other!
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Post a 500 word thread about what you believe and we will see.
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I may be one of those heretics ha But I hope that doesn't mean we can't have good conversations and pick at each other!
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If you look through Pates 100's of threads that all say the same thing, just a different word order, you will quickly see that everyone and anyone who doesn't agree with him is labeled by him as such. No need for him to sufficiently answer your questions; when he realizes that he has no answer he just starts another thread. Welcome to the forum and I wish you luck with Pate and hope you have a lot of patience for non answers, deflections, contradictions...you'll see.
Is that why he said, "Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood?" (Acts 15:19-20)
So no idolatry, no fornication, no meats not properly bled, and no ingestion of biohazards. Yeah, how mean is that?
OK, thanks, I've got it.
a) You won't answer my question.
b) It doesn't matter what you think James was. That is your opinion. And it is a wrong opinion. James was an apostle. You can't deny this. Which disproves your case.
Thanks for demonstrating that you are closed to debate full of prejudice against those who happen to not be just like you..
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When James found out that he couldn't curcumcise those Gentiles believers. He was not about to let them go without laying some law on them, Acts 15:20, 21.
It is unlikely that anyone that is a Catholic or a Protestant will have saving faith. If they had saving faith they would not need a religion. The just that live by faith, live by faith in Christ and not faith in a religion.
There is a correct way to believe and have faith, you have not found it yet.
You've gone from probably to unlikely. What you haven't done is to answer the question: is it possible for some Catholics or some protestants to have saving faith? Since you say it is unlikely, which means less than 50% probable, then it must mean that you do believe this. That some Catholics or protestants do have saving faith. You can't deny this.
And you can't deny either that James was an apostle. And your point was that none of the apostles taught a religion. Clearly James did. No matter what else he did he was an apostle. No matter what else he did, he taught a religion. You cannot deny this. So your position is utterly in shreds. All that is holding it together is your blind prejudice against those who you think are religious. Take a look at yourself. You are not a free man. You are bound by your own prejudice. All this talk about openness and about free will is not much good if, once you have it, you allow yourself to be ensnared by such things.
Therefore I (James) judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood. For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath. (Acts 15:19-21)
Those who wanted Mosaic law were directed to Jewish synagogues where that law is taught.
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Only in the sense that Jesus Christ was a man, and commissioned his human apostles and bishops to build his Church.
Categorically refuted (yet again) HERE.
The biblical teaching regarding salvation can be viewed HERE and HERE.
So much for Pate's entirely sectarian opinions regarding what Catholics supposedly believe and teach. :yawn:
Paul spent over 20 years of his life preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
During that time he didn't construct one holy Cathedral.
Holy Cathedrals are the result of Catholicism.
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And...?
I agree. Great churches and cathedrals were eventually constructed by Christ's one historic Catholic Church. :up:
Back to Post #77 above.
You don't need a Cathedral to preach the Gospel.
But you do need a Cathedral to do your religion. This is why Paul never built any.