SaulToPaul 2
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Please reread it.
The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II
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Please reread it.
SaulToPaul 2
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What do amateurs gain by lying?
In contrast, NASA would continue to collect $50 million per DAY.
I had the image analysed to see of it was a photoshop or not and sure enough it is.
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The highlighted areas (red and blue) show where parts of the image were cloned. or modified. The sky was cloned or modified to change the shape of the Earth's surface.
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This image is error detection--the pixels showing are errors in the image, again showing that it has been modified from its original from.
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The highlighted areas (red and blue) show where parts of the image were cloned. or modified. The sky was cloned or modified to change the shape of the Earth's surface.
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This image is error detection--the pixels showing are errors in the image, again showing that it has been modified from its original from.
SaulToPaul 2
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Thanks.
This is not only proof that the flat earth image was a fake but it is very strong evidence, if not outright proof, that the Earth is NOT flat. The original must have shown the Earth's curvature. Otherwise, there would have been no reason to modify the image.
SaulToPaul 2
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Nevertheless, the same kind of testing can be done on many NASA images to show doctoring.
Heck, they even admit that their globes are photoshopped. The continents continually change size and shape.
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I wonder then at those who have parted off and divided the world into Libya, Asia, and Europe, since the difference between these is not small; for in length Europe extends along by both, while in breadth it is clear to me that it is beyond comparison larger; for Libya furnishes proofs about itself that it is surrounded by sea, except so much of it as borders upon Asia; and this fact was shown by Necos king of the Egyptians first of all those about whom we have knowledge. He when he had ceased digging the channel which goes through from the Nile to the Arabian gulf, sent Phenicians with ships, bidding them sail and come back through the Pillars of Heracles to the Northern Sea and so to Egypt. The Phenicians therefore set forth from the Erythraian Sea and sailed through the Southern Sea; and when autumn came, they would put to shore and sow the land, wherever in Libya they might happen to be as they sailed, and then they waited for the harvest: and having reaped the corn they would sail on, so that after two years had elapsed, in the third year they turned through the Pillars of Heracles and arrived again in Egypt. And they reported a thing which I cannot believe, but another man may, namely that in sailing round Libya they had the sun on their right hand.
Thus was this country first known to be what it is, and after this it is the Carthaginians who make report of it; for as to Sataspes the son of Teaspis the Achaimenid, he did not sail round Libya, though he was sent for this very purpose, but was struck with fear by the length of the voyage and the desolate nature of the land, and so returned back and did not accomplish the task which his mother laid upon him. For this man had outraged a daughter of Zopyros the son of Megabyzos, a virgin; and then when he was about to be impaled by order of king Xerxes for this offence, the mother of Sataspes, who was a sister of Dareios, entreated for his life, saying that she would herself lay upon him a greater penalty than Xerxes; for he should be compelled (she said) to sail round Libya, until in sailing round it he came to the Arabian gulf. So then Xerxes having agreed upon these terms, Sataspes went to Egypt, and obtaining a ship and sailors from the Egyptians, he sailed to the Pillars of Heracles; and having sailed through them and turned the point of Libya which is called the promontory of Soloeis, he sailed on towards the South. Then after he had passed over much sea in many months, as there was needed ever more and more voyaging, he turned about and sailed back again to Egypt: and having come from thence into the presence of king Xerxes, he reported saying that at the furthest point which he reached he was sailing by dwarfish people, who used clothing made from the palm-tree, and who, whenever they came to land with their ship, left their towns and fled away to the mountains: and they, he said, did no injury when they entered into the towns, but took food from them only. And the cause, he said, why he had not completely sailed round Libya was that the ship could not advance any further but stuck fast. Xerxes however did not believe that he was speaking the truth, and since he had not performed the appointed task, he impaled him, inflicting upon him the penalty pronounced before. A eunuch belonging to this Sataspes ran away to Samos as soon as he heard that his master was dead, carrying with him large sums of money; and of this a man of Samos took possession, whose name I know, but I purposely pass it over without mention.
Of Asia the greater part was explored by Dareios, who desiring to know of the river Indus, which is a second river producing crocodiles of all the rivers in the world,--to know, I say, of this river where it runs out into the sea, sent with ships, besides others whom he trusted to speak the truth, Skylax also, a man of Caryanda. These starting from the city of Caspatyros and the land of Pactyïke, sailed down the river towards the East and the sunrising to the sea; and then sailing over the sea Westwards they came in the thirtieth month to that place from whence the king of the Egyptians had sent out the Phenicians of whom I spoke before, to sail round Libya. After these had made their voyage round the coast, Dareios both subdued the Indians and made use of this sea. Thus Asia also, excepting the parts of it which are towards the rising sun, has been found to be similar to Libya.
Herodotus Book 4:40-42
Thus was this country first known to be what it is, and after this it is the Carthaginians who make report of it; for as to Sataspes the son of Teaspis the Achaimenid, he did not sail round Libya, though he was sent for this very purpose, but was struck with fear by the length of the voyage and the desolate nature of the land, and so returned back and did not accomplish the task which his mother laid upon him. For this man had outraged a daughter of Zopyros the son of Megabyzos, a virgin; and then when he was about to be impaled by order of king Xerxes for this offence, the mother of Sataspes, who was a sister of Dareios, entreated for his life, saying that she would herself lay upon him a greater penalty than Xerxes; for he should be compelled (she said) to sail round Libya, until in sailing round it he came to the Arabian gulf. So then Xerxes having agreed upon these terms, Sataspes went to Egypt, and obtaining a ship and sailors from the Egyptians, he sailed to the Pillars of Heracles; and having sailed through them and turned the point of Libya which is called the promontory of Soloeis, he sailed on towards the South. Then after he had passed over much sea in many months, as there was needed ever more and more voyaging, he turned about and sailed back again to Egypt: and having come from thence into the presence of king Xerxes, he reported saying that at the furthest point which he reached he was sailing by dwarfish people, who used clothing made from the palm-tree, and who, whenever they came to land with their ship, left their towns and fled away to the mountains: and they, he said, did no injury when they entered into the towns, but took food from them only. And the cause, he said, why he had not completely sailed round Libya was that the ship could not advance any further but stuck fast. Xerxes however did not believe that he was speaking the truth, and since he had not performed the appointed task, he impaled him, inflicting upon him the penalty pronounced before. A eunuch belonging to this Sataspes ran away to Samos as soon as he heard that his master was dead, carrying with him large sums of money; and of this a man of Samos took possession, whose name I know, but I purposely pass it over without mention.
Of Asia the greater part was explored by Dareios, who desiring to know of the river Indus, which is a second river producing crocodiles of all the rivers in the world,--to know, I say, of this river where it runs out into the sea, sent with ships, besides others whom he trusted to speak the truth, Skylax also, a man of Caryanda. These starting from the city of Caspatyros and the land of Pactyïke, sailed down the river towards the East and the sunrising to the sea; and then sailing over the sea Westwards they came in the thirtieth month to that place from whence the king of the Egyptians had sent out the Phenicians of whom I spoke before, to sail round Libya. After these had made their voyage round the coast, Dareios both subdued the Indians and made use of this sea. Thus Asia also, excepting the parts of it which are towards the rising sun, has been found to be similar to Libya.
Herodotus Book 4:40-42
The continents do NOT contantly change size and shape. What changes is the orbital distance of the satellite and how wide the field of view of the camera.
A point that has already been repeatedly explained perhaps a dozen times during this discussion.
Don't worry about it though! No need to be consistent or honest while being aggressively stupid and irrational! Don't let the facts get in the way of a cherished delusion!
Also, image processing via software like Photoshop is almost always necessary for a good looking image. Artifacts from Photoshop, in and of themselves, don't prove deception. Its the kind of artifacts that are present. You can definitely tell when two images have been added together. You can definitely tell if an image has been warped (i.e. to make a curved horizon look flat, for example). The kinds of artifacts left behind to do things like enhance contrast or increase the color depth or to lighten or darken shadows are altogether different kinds of artifacts and do not indicate any sort of deception on the part of the one doing the editing.
Here's a before and after of an image of the Whirlpool Galaxy. The only differences between the two images have to do with pulling out details and diminishing noise as well as some cropping of the image to removing unwanted processing artifacts around the edges of the image as well as to zoom in on the important part of the image. Otherwise, these are the exact same photo. Do all the analysis you want, you won't find anything that looks like I copy/pasted anything or that there was anything else done to the photo that would render it fake in anyway. The point being that no one would care to look at the first, unprocessed, image.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ahwp2uZh3GbfoSwwshOH2c773fuC
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ahwp2uZh3GbfoSJ78D10wQdhF67u
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P.S. The comments about irrationality and delusions are aimed at flat-earthers in general. If they don't apply to you then ignore them.
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Read and lose your ignorance. (This is NOT and insult. Ignorance simply means we do not know something. Read this and you will know something you did not know before! :cheers
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Antarctica-considered-a-no-fly-zone
Yeah, it's always best to copy the image or take a screen grab of it and upload it here. That way it never disappears.
I keep running up against a file size limitation on these photos of my own. I was just hoping that I could find a way to store them without having to have multiple copies of the same image. It's easy enough to convert them into smaller files though.
If you upload them here on TOL you never have to re-upload them again.
After you have uploaded the image the first time if you ever want to reuse it just click the file manager icon in the editor.... View attachment 26359
It will then bring up a window of every image you have uploaded in the past and you can reselect it to add to your post!
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Alternately, you could upload the photos/images/screenshots to imgur.com and make them private, that way you just have to post a link to the image here...
That's what I did in that last post only with OneDrive.
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A good suggestion.
A better alternative: ge.tt
Use it for those large files, e.g., http://ge.tt/3ew2rfo2
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A good suggestion.
A better alternative: ge.tt
Use it for those large files, e.g., http://ge.tt/3ew2rfo2
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Test run....
http://ge.tt/9FhV9ap2
Incidentally, I'd still love to know just what flat-earthers think that's a picture of!
"Magic!"
I'm guessing they would say it's a projection of some sort on a dome covering the earth. Or possibly... they might say it's a completely fabricated image. :idunno:
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