It really isn't, because they in turn put others at risk who didn't ask for it. If you weren't so selfish that you can't think past yourself, you would know that.
The coronavirus scam
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Who have I put at risk by refusing to be vaccinated?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Would you apply the same standard to homosexuals who engage in unprotected sex and run the risk of spreading AIDS throughout the general population?
Is there a vaccine for HIV?
Yourself and then subsequently everyone who is exposed to you for as long as you are contagious:
Vaccine Refusal May Put Herd Immunity At Risk, Researchers Warn
One in four Americans say they won't get a coronavirus vaccine. Researchers say it could keep the nation from reaching a critical tipping point.
www.npr.org
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
My risk and then subsequently everyone who is exposed to me, for the last 18 months, has been exactly zero.Yourself and then subsequently everyone who is exposed to you for as long as you are contagious:
Vaccine Refusal May Put Herd Immunity At Risk, Researchers Warn
One in four Americans say they won't get a coronavirus vaccine. Researchers say it could keep the nation from reaching a critical tipping point.
The correct answer to my question is "no one."
You can't see the virus. You never know when you will come into contact with it, and after that happens, it's too late.
The correct answer to your question is "everyone."
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
No duh
pretty sure I have to be around an infected person, breathing the same air
Unless of course I'm healthy and have a functioning immune system and am generally free of any health problems. Heck, I haven't had a cold for seventeen years.
No, the answer to my question can be calculated with 100% degree of certainty, since I have not developed the Kung Flu in that period of time.
The correct answer is no one.
No one has been put at risk from me over the last 18 months, because I have not been contagious. Not even a little bit.
Pretty sure =/= know.
Utterly irrelevant. You have no immunity to the coronavirus, and it is estimated to be as contagious as chicken pox.
Whatever you have to tell yourself. We know that a lot of other people who have died of covid also had your bravado. Phil Valentine, etc.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Nothing is certain in the biological sciences.
No immunity, correct. But a healthy immune system that would mitigate any degree of reservoir of contagion I might represent
I'm speaking as a former professional statistician.
benben
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Explain how a vaccine that requires boosters after 3-4 months could possibly get us to herd immunity, even if every single person was vaccinated.Yourself and then subsequently everyone who is exposed to you for as long as you are contagious:
Vaccine Refusal May Put Herd Immunity At Risk, Researchers Warn
One in four Americans say they won't get a coronavirus vaccine. Researchers say it could keep the nation from reaching a critical tipping point.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
I don't usually even open links to Washington Post articles but this one popped up so have at it
Then what are you so afraid of, big guy? Needles? You're going to take on the coronavirus with your bare fists, but you're afraid that the Fauci-ouchie is going to kill you?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Certainly not a virus as weak as the Kung Flu
I'm a trained phlebotomist
They say the Fauci-ouchie stings bad, but they give you a lollipop after so you will stop your crying.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
I used to give out cartoon Band-Aids to my patients
Too weak-kneed to be on the receiving end, eh?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
The strategy at the beginning was a good one - flatten the curve, develop herd immunity. It's still a good strategy for those who do not have other risk factors.
Now maybe you, Lusername, are obese. Maybe you are elderly. Maybe you have other complicating health factors that put you at risk. For you the lesser of the two choices, vaccination with booster shots every couple months, might be the best choice. But it would be your choice to make.
For me, the choice I've chosen to make, is to forgo the vaccination and run the risk of exposure knowing that the disease course in my system is likely to be slight and is likely to leave me with a more robust immune response. If that makes me a risk in your eyes, by all means stay the heck away from me. Wear 3 masks. Double up on your booster shots. Live in fear.
Now maybe you, Lusername, are obese. Maybe you are elderly. Maybe you have other complicating health factors that put you at risk. For you the lesser of the two choices, vaccination with booster shots every couple months, might be the best choice. But it would be your choice to make.
For me, the choice I've chosen to make, is to forgo the vaccination and run the risk of exposure knowing that the disease course in my system is likely to be slight and is likely to leave me with a more robust immune response. If that makes me a risk in your eyes, by all means stay the heck away from me. Wear 3 masks. Double up on your booster shots. Live in fear.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
No. As a phlebotomist trainee, and as a health profession student at the time, I was required to have all sorts of vaccinations and to have all sorts of blood drawn. In fact during my phlebotomist training, I was a very popular pincushion for my fellow students because I'm such an easy draw. My median cubital vein pops.
