The coronavirus scam

marke

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Cites? Also, if you think lockdown measures were enacted to destroy the world's economies then that's just tin foil hat stuff in itself. This was a global pandemic and has claimed hundreds of thousands of lives. This virus is not just some sort of 'flu'.
Mostly old and sick people died from the covid virus. Most deaths were in rest homes. The result of foolishness in failed efforts to stop the virus is world economic collapse. If you don't know about it yet you will. The economic damage is serious and likely permanent.

People are going to die. People have to learn to live with that fact. You don't quarantine homosexuals in efforts to stop AIDS. You have to let the disease take people's lives and live with it. You don't quarantine every alcoholic in the country as well as non-alcoholics in efforts to stop alcohol-related deaths. You have to allow people to live with the risk of dying. Life has always been like that.

You don't shut down tens of millions of Americans and their businesses just to try to stop sick people from getting sick and dying. Life must go on and people must accept that risks of sickness and death are a part of life.
 

Trump Gurl

Credo in Unum Deum
I've pretty much given up on this site

And we are so wounded because you have. Well, when you are in a conservative forum trying to foist false liberal nonsense and lies on the members, don't be surprised when you fail.

I only hang around here to counter the COVID conspiracy nonsense

It seems like you only hang around here to spread COVID conspiracy nonsense

Their alternate reality is part of their identity

LOL. I feel like putting together a list of the total lies you have told in this forum. Some of them are outrageous.

I live in Israel, where the vaccine has been a great success

Not enough time has even passed to make such a judgement.

I urge everybody to get vaccinated, as soon as possible.

And I am sure you will cover the hospital bills of those who follow your advice and get sick, right? Where do we mail the bill to?
 

Arthur Brain

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Mostly old and sick people died from the covid virus. Most deaths were in rest homes. The result of foolishness in failed efforts to stop the virus is world economic collapse. If you don't know about it yet you will. The economic damage is serious and likely permanent.

People are going to die. People have to learn to live with that fact. You don't quarantine homosexuals in efforts to stop AIDS. You have to let the disease take people's lives and live with it. You don't quarantine every alcoholic in the country as well as non-alcoholics in efforts to stop alcohol-related deaths. You have to allow people to live with the risk of dying. Life has always been like that.

You don't shut down tens of millions of Americans and their businesses just to try to stop sick people from getting sick and dying. Life must go on and people must accept that risks of sickness and death are a part of life.
Cites for your former? Else, this virus has claimed hundreds of thousands of lives including many who were neither old, sick or even with underlying health conditions that made them more susceptible. There were certainly people in the more at risk groups and how things were handled in the UK where it came to care homes could and should have been handled better but Covid is not a virus that can be so easily pigeon holed into a little box. This has been a global pandemic and whilst things might be calming down in our respective countries (for now) it still rages elsewhere and I doubt any administration took such extreme measures lightly including your former president once he finally stopped lying about how it was all under control and would magically disappear last April. The economy will recover in time and I by no means make light of the damage that lockdowns can take either.
 

chair

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Cites for your former? Else, this virus has claimed hundreds of thousands of lives including many who were neither old, sick or even with underlying health conditions that made them more susceptible. There were certainly people in the more at risk groups and how things were handled in the UK where it came to care homes could and should have been handled better but Covid is not a virus that can be so easily pigeon holed into a little box. This has been a global pandemic and whilst things might be calming down in our respective countries (for now) it still rages elsewhere and I doubt any administration took such extreme measures lightly including your former president once he finally stopped lying about how it was all under control and would magically disappear last April. The economy will recover in time and I by no means make light of the damage that lockdowns can take either.
There are numbers. over 100,000 Americans under the age of 65 died of Covid, even with all of the hated lockdowns, masks etc.


There are also a huge number of Americans who are diabetic or pre diabetic, and thus at high risk.


The idea of "just protecting the vulnerable" sounds attractive, until you try to think of how to do it on a practical level. It would get even harder if there are huge numbers of infected people around.
 

Trump Gurl

Credo in Unum Deum
. . . . this virus has claimed hundreds of thousands of lives including many who were neither old, sick or even with underlying health conditions that made them more susceptible. . . ..

Doctor Brain joins Doctor Faucci in their pathological lie-fest. Tne numbers were lied about, the reasons for death were different than stated on death certificates, some died due to incompetency ala-Cuomo . . . . Welcome to Doctor Brain joins Doctor Faucci in Nazi fear mongering in order to destroy a nation (or two).

. . . in the UK where it came to care homes could and should have been handled better . . . .

Doctor Braindead throws a small bone to the truth, but still perpetuates the lies.


. . . . This has been a global pandemic and whilst things might be calming down in our respective countries (for now) it still rages elsewhere . . . .

I have videos of doctors saying the pandemic is over. I believe them over Nurse Arthurette. As for other countries, that's there business. How about you move there to continue your incessant whining. Go join an Indian forum.

. . . . any administration took such extreme measures lightly including your former president . . . .

There goes brainless with his propaganda lies. Donald Trump was taking strong measures while the democrats and the news were fixated on their fake impeachment. THAT is a FACT. Donald Trump was taking strong measures when democrats were saying that Covid is no big deal.

. . . . .The economy will recover in time and I by no means make light of the damage that lockdowns can take either.

Hah! What a fraud. Your side CAUSED the damage ON PURPOSE to further their socialist agenda and to defeat Trump. Do you know how many families you destroyed you pig? How many children's lives you destroyed because you put dad out of work to further your fascist agenda? Lowlife scum like you are the political left should all be in prison. Every dad who is out of work due to your lockdown should have every right to beat the hell out of dirtbags like you. I would enjoy seeing that greatly.
 

marke

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Cites for your former? Else, this virus has claimed hundreds of thousands of lives including many who were neither old, sick or even with underlying health conditions that made them more susceptible. There were certainly people in the more at risk groups and how things were handled in the UK where it came to care homes could and should have been handled better but Covid is not a virus that can be so easily pigeon holed into a little box. This has been a global pandemic and whilst things might be calming down in our respective countries (for now) it still rages elsewhere and I doubt any administration took such extreme measures lightly including your former president once he finally stopped lying about how it was all under control and would magically disappear last April. The economy will recover in time and I by no means make light of the damage that lockdowns can take either.
Covid, like AIDS, has caused thousands of deaths. Covid affects the elderly worse and AIDS affects the young worse. But shutting down the economy and forcing everyone to wear masks that do little or nothing to stop the spread of the virus is nonsense. Let's fight covid while fighting moronic economy-destroying experimental efforts to stop its spread.
 

marke

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There are numbers. over 100,000 Americans under the age of 65 died of Covid, even with all of the hated lockdowns, masks etc.


There are also a huge number of Americans who are diabetic or pre diabetic, and thus at high risk.


The idea of "just protecting the vulnerable" sounds attractive, until you try to think of how to do it on a practical level. It would get even harder if there are huge numbers of infected people around.
To protect the vulnerable from AIDS, those with AIDS should either be quarantined or listed on accessible health records for others to check before engaging in immoral sex with them. But leftists don't do that because they think it would do more damage than good in the fight against AIDS. Unfortunately, leftists who are getting paid whether they work or not typically ignore the major damage being done to the whole world by nonsensical shutdowns thinking that shutdowns will stop the spread of the virus. Shutdowns may slow the spread, but will not stop the spread. Prolonging the spread of the virus by shutdowns does even more damage to the economy. This is not going to end well for anyone.
 

marke

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The demonic left blamed Trump for the virus, which was not only a lie, but insanely stupid. They also claimed he did nothing to deal with the disaster, which was a lie from hell as well. We know demons lie and why they lie, but there is no excuse for that sort of behavior from anyone, much less from politicians and the media.
 

Trump Gurl

Credo in Unum Deum
The demonic left blamed Trump for the virus, which was not only a lie, but insanely stupid. They also claimed he did nothing to deal with the disaster, which was a lie from hell as well. We know demons lie and why they lie, but there is no excuse for that sort of behavior from anyone, much less from politicians and the media.

2 Million Lives Saved Donald Trump vs. Covid​

 

Arthur Brain

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Doctor Brain joins Doctor Faucci in their pathological lie-fest. Tne numbers were lied about, the reasons for death were different than stated on death certificates, some died due to incompetency ala-Cuomo . . . . Welcome to Doctor Brain joins Doctor Faucci in Nazi fear mongering in order to destroy a nation (or two).



Doctor Braindead throws a small bone to the truth, but still perpetuates the lies.




I have videos of doctors saying the pandemic is over. I believe them over Nurse Arthurette. As for other countries, that's there business. How about you move there to continue your incessant whining. Go join an Indian forum.



There goes brainless with his propaganda lies. Donald Trump was taking strong measures while the democrats and the news were fixated on their fake impeachment. THAT is a FACT. Donald Trump was taking strong measures when democrats were saying that Covid is no big deal.



Hah! What a fraud. Your side CAUSED the damage ON PURPOSE to further their socialist agenda and to defeat Trump. Do you know how many families you destroyed you pig? How many children's lives you destroyed because you put dad out of work to further your fascist agenda? Lowlife scum like you are the political left should all be in prison. Every dad who is out of work due to your lockdown should have every right to beat the hell out of dirtbags like you. I would enjoy seeing that greatly.
Hmm, so "lowlife scum" as you posit should all be in prison should they and get to be beaten up? You'd enjoy seeing those on the "left", with an opposing view to your own suffer that would you? Correct? Telling. That's the sort of deranged thinking that led to actual fascism and persecution that led to death camps. If you actually had some objectivity about you along with some critical thinking skills you'd not only recognize the irony of your post here but be appalled by what you advocate in turn. You've shamed and embarrassed yourself yet further.
 
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Arthur Brain

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The demonic left blamed Trump for the virus, which was not only a lie, but insanely stupid. They also claimed he did nothing to deal with the disaster, which was a lie from hell as well. We know demons lie and why they lie, but there is no excuse for that sort of behavior from anyone, much less from politicians and the media.
Where exactly are you getting this notion that the "left" blamed Trump for Covid? That would indeed be insanely stupid as as inept his handling of the crisis and subsequent he was hardly responsible for the virus itself. Where are you getting this from?
 

Arthur Brain

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Covid, like AIDS, has caused thousands of deaths. Covid affects the elderly worse and AIDS affects the young worse. But shutting down the economy and forcing everyone to wear masks that do little or nothing to stop the spread of the virus is nonsense. Let's fight covid while fighting moronic economy-destroying experimental efforts to stop its spread.
Covid can afflict young and generally healthy people, it isn't some virus that targets the elderly alone or even in the main. There are obviously people who are at higher risk but this virus is beyond convenient pigeon holing.
 

way 2 go

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Origin of Covid — Following the Clues


We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin,” a group of virologists and others wrote in the Lancet on February 19, 2020


It later turned out that the Lancet letter had been organized and drafted by Peter Daszak, president of the EcoHealth Alliance of New York. Dr. Daszak’s organization funded coronavirus research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. If the SARS2 virus had indeed escaped from research he funded, Dr. Daszak would be potentially culpable. This acute conflict of interest was not declared to the Lancet’s readers. To the contrary, the letter concluded, “We declare no competing interests
 

way 2 go

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Well, according to "Nicholas Wade", so that's gotta be proof enough in itself...

That latter soundbite of yours is only going to blow up some more irony meters.
Nicholas Wade:

What became clear was that the Chinese had no evidence to offer the commission in support of the natural emergence theory.

This was surprising because both the SARS1 and MERS viruses had left copious traces in the environment. The intermediary host species of SARS1 was identified within four months of the epidemic’s outbreak, and the host of MERS within nine months. Yet some 15 months after the SARS2 pandemic began, and a presumably intensive search, Chinese researchers had failed to find either the original bat population, or the intermediate species to which SARS2 might have jumped, or any serological evidence that any Chinese population, including that of Wuhan, had ever been exposed to the virus prior to December 2019. Natural emergence remained a conjecture which, however plausible to begin with, had gained not a shred of supporting evidence in over a year.

And as long as that remains the case, it’s logical to pay serious attention to the alternative conjecture, that SARS2 escaped from a lab.
 

Arthur Brain

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Nicholas Wade:

What became clear was that the Chinese had no evidence to offer the commission in support of the natural emergence theory.

This was surprising because both the SARS1 and MERS viruses had left copious traces in the environment. The intermediary host species of SARS1 was identified within four months of the epidemic’s outbreak, and the host of MERS within nine months. Yet some 15 months after the SARS2 pandemic began, and a presumably intensive search, Chinese researchers had failed to find either the original bat population, or the intermediate species to which SARS2 might have jumped, or any serological evidence that any Chinese population, including that of Wuhan, had ever been exposed to the virus prior to December 2019. Natural emergence remained a conjecture which, however plausible to begin with, had gained not a shred of supporting evidence in over a year.

And as long as that remains the case, it’s logical to pay serious attention to the alternative conjecture, that SARS2 escaped from a lab.
And this should be taken seriously - because?
 
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