-the church does not teach 'earning salvation'
-the church does not teach 'mary worship'
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-the church does not teach 'earning salvation'
-the church does not teach 'mary worship'
You teach protesants must be inside rcc to be saved. Thats earning.
Ben Masada
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That's true tulipBee, I read in the Summa Theologica of Thomas Aquinas, the most famous Catholic Theologian that salvation comes only to those inside the Catholic Church.
Oh no ! Not ecf again ! What happened to Jesus?
Cruciform
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The Catholic Church does not now, nor has it ever taught, that we "earn our salvation" in any sense whatsoever, given that any acts of ours that are pleasing to God are not done in our own strength or ability, but only as a result of God's enabling grace. For "it is God who works in us, both to will and to do according to His good pleasure" (Phil. 2:12-13; cf. 1 Cor. 15:10; Rom. 2:6-11).
See the biblical teaching HERE.
Addressed HERE and HERE.
Nope. Try again.
Thus, each of your supposed examples of Catholic "error" above is simply a direct misrepresentation (Ex. 20:16; Prov. 19:5) of what Catholics actually believe and teach. Shame on you.
Cruciform
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St. Thomas Aquinas was not an "Early Church Father." He was born in the 13th century.
Nothing whatsoever. All truth is Christ's truth.
Protestants can't feel shame cause the holy spirit lead us there.
Most of rcc traditions leads away from truths.
Cruciform
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...according to you, at least. :yawn:
Cruciform
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Post your proof.
"At the moment the Roman Catholic Church condemned the biblical doctrine of justification by faith alone, she denied the Gospel and ceased to be a legitimate church, regardless of all the rest of her affirmations of Christian orthodoxy. To embrace her as an authentic church while she continues to repudiate the biblical doctrine of salvation is a fatal attribution."
R.C.Sproul
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We can all agree its important to belong to the church Christ founded. That's the problem with Catholicism, its not that church.
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-the church teaches
-bringing the gospel to all nations
-we are being fed by the church
-Jesus asked peter to feed His sheep
-bringing the gospel to all nations
-we are being fed by the church
-Jesus asked peter to feed His sheep
SaulToPaul 2
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:chuckle:
-the only time Jesus got angry
-it was about the temple
-He may feel the same about the church
-it was about the temple
-He may feel the same about the church
SaulToPaul 2
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Have there ever been money changers in a catholic church?
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Oh.. oh... oh... I know this one... :sinapisN:
SaulToPaul 2
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Chrys is clueless as to why the LORD was angry and turned over the tables in the temple.
Ben Masada
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Oh yes! I remember to have read about that. It was when he prepared a whip and caused not only financial but also physical damage to the money changers before the Temple. There is no excuse for sins unless we seek forgiven by whom we have offended. Jesus was charismatic and we all like to believe it so. He could have solved the problem with the money changers with but a stern glance of charismatic eyes and not break the Golden Rule which says not to do unto others what we would not like they did to ourselves. The Golden Rule covers the whole second part of the Decalogue. Serious transgressions right there! And you say above that it was the first time Jesus expressed his anger. Now, tell me, how many times did he caused others to get angry? If you need help, read Matthew 23:13-33. He made others angry 15 times only in that text. Do you want to discuss about it?
Ben Masada
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Wait a minute TulipBee and hold on that thought! What church did Jesus found if he was a Jew and not a Christian? Jews don't found churches, if I must remind you of. The first church which became known as Christian, was founded by Paul in the city of Antioch if you read Acts 11:26 with context. Believe it or not, Jesus never even dreamed Christianity would ever rise. When Paul started preaching his gospel, Jesus had been gone about 15 years.