the apocalypse

chrysostom

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books used in my research

Angold, Michael ”Byzantium” St. Martin's Press
Armstrong, Karen ”Islam - A Short History” Modern Library
Aune, David ”Revelation”
Baur, Chrysostomus ”John Chrysostom and His Time”
Beale, G ”The Book of Revelation”
Beckwith, ”Apocalyse of John”
Butler, Daniel ”The First Jihad” Casemate Publishers
Byron, Robert ”The Byzantine Achievement”
Capponi, Niccolo "Victory of The West" Da Capo Press
Charles, R ”Studies in the Apocalypse” Wipf and Stock Publishers
Durant, Will ”Caesar and Christ” MJF Books
Emmerson, Richard ”The Apocalypse in the Middle Ages” Cornell
Esposito, John ”The Oxford History of Islam” Oxford University Press
Finkel, Caroline ”Osman's Dream” Perseus Books Group
Ford, Josephine ”Revelation”
Freely, John ”Istanbul - The Imperial City” Viking - Penguin Books USA
Fregosi, Paul ”Jihad in the West” Prometheus Books
Gibbon, Edward ”The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire”
Glubb, John ”A Short History of the Arab Peoples” Dorset Press
Grant, Michael ”The Roman Emperors” Barnes & Noble
Gregg, Steve ”Revelation - Four Views” Thomas Nelson Publishers
Gwynn, John ”The Apocalypse of St. John” APA - Philo Press Amsterdam
Haldon, J ”Byzantium in the Seventh Century”
Harris, Jonathan "Constantinople: Capital of Byzantium" Hambledon Continuum
Haussig, H ”A History of Byzantine Civilization”
Herrin, Judith ”Byzantium” Princeton University Press
Holland, Tom "In the Shadow of the Sword" Doubleday
Hopkins, T. C. F. ”Empires, Wars, and Battles” Tom Doherty Associates
Kaegi, Walter ”Army, Society and Religion in Byzantium”
Kaegi, Walter ”Byzantium and the early Islam conquests” Cambridge
Krey, Philip ”Nicholas of Lyra's Apocalypse Commentary”
Lecky, William ”History of European Morals”
Lewis, Bernard ”The Crisis of Islam” Modern Library
Lewis, David Levering "God's Crucible" W W Norton
Maier, Paul ”Eusebius - The Church History” Kregel Publications
Mango, Cyril ”The Oxford History of Byzantium” Oxford University Press
Mazower, Mark "The Balkans - A Short History" Modern Library
Miceli, Vincent ”The Antichrist” Roman Catholic Books
Norwich, John ”Byzantium - The Early Centuries” Alfred A. Knopf
Norwich, John “Byzantium - A Short History of - Alfred A. Knopf
O'Shea, Stephen ”Sea of Faith” Walker and Company
Ostrogorsky, George ”History of the Byzantine State” Rutgers Univ Press
Pagden, Anthony ”Worlds at War” Random House
Palmer, Andrew ”The Seventh Century in the West-Syrian Chronicles”
Payne, Robert ”The History of Islam” Dorset Press
Pipes, Daniel ”Militant Islam Reaches America” W. W. Norton & Company
Regan, Geoffrey ”First Crusader - Byzantium's Holy Wars”
Reston, James "Defenders of the Faith"
Ross, Daveed ”My Year Inside Radical Islam” Penguin
Schatkin, Margaret ”Saint John Chrysostom - Apologist”
Thompson, Leonard ”The Book of Revelation” Oxford University Press
Treadgold, Warren ”A History of the Byzantine State and Society”
Weinrich, Willliam ”Revelation, Ancient Christian Commentary”
Wells, Colin "Sailing from Byzantium" Delacorte Press
Worth, Roland ”The Seven Cities of the Apocalypse and Greco-Asian”
 

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timeline of the apocalypse

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaKySlVvj1w

The Lifespan of the Antichrist is not the center of Attention, such as with the Prophecy of Daniel concerning Babylon. http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116236]Springing up of the Untoward Generation, to which we will make a statement concerning the Mark of the Beast. ... ... ... ... The Center of Attention in Revelation, is the "Events of Revelation" (2 Days Rainbow, 40 Days, 3 Days Darkness, 150 Days), 2Corin11:24-25.

666 Mark of the Beast, Rev. 9:15
132 Hours = 2 Days of Rainbow + 3 Days and a Half Days of Darkness
190 Days = 40 Days of Tribulation + 150 Days of Star Wormwood
323 Month = 3/23/2016 to begin the 153 Days
21 Year = 2/12/2016 to 3/23/2016 this begins the year or "Events of Revelation" that impacts the Earth (because the earth is impacted, 2 days after the Rainbow, it is called a year, or the Year of Revelation, the Earth is not impacted with the "Rainbow")
Total = 666

Antipas Faithful Martyr, Rev. 2:13
Antipas has not been slain, Rev. 3:7 says the last Church that still stands is Philadelphia, Luke 4:25-26 says the 42 Days that comes before the 153 days, begins at "Septa" that is City of Philadelphia/SEPTA/Market Frankford Line, Arrot Terminal. (Prophecy of Daniel says 2300 Days, or 2 Days for Rainbow and 3 Days for Darkness, or 23 Hours, see below:)

Four Horsemen, Rev. 18:10 (parallel conclusion)
23 Hours = Rev. 18:10 (one hour taken away from 24 Hours in a Day)
1260 Days = Rev. 11:3
42 Months = Rev. 11:2
2000 Years = Rev. 9:16, Mark 5:13
... Spin/Mix the figures around and you obtain 2/12/2016 (begins 40 Days) to 3/23/2016 (begins 153 days).

Seven Heads (More Detail about the Seven SEALS, don't forget the value of human life)
1. Enoch walked with God
2. Elijah revealed with God in the New Testament
3. Moses revealed with God in the New Testament
4. Lazarus taken to God in Abraham's Bosom
5. Jesus revealed with God in the New Testament
6. John wrote about God in Heaven in Revelation
7. Two Witnesses caught up to God in Revelation
...The Apostle John was told to be silent in revelation, so the Sixth SEAL was not opened at that time, it will be opened when the Two Witnesses are Slain, and the Seventh SEAL when the 150 Days begin, when the Antichrist is allowed to reign.

Ten Horns (The Judgment is Doubled)
1-2 = God Head and God
3-4 = Saints and Jesus
5-6 = Holy Spirit and Lamb Slain (or Jesus Slain in the Holy Ghost to identify with Joseph/Babylon)
7-8 = Satan and Babylon (Joseph)
9-10 = Two Witnesses
... The Tenth Kingdom is Babylon (Tenth from Cush in Genesis is Babel, the "Two Witnesses" are another form of Babylon, in which the Covenant is Confirmed)

Little Book (Don't forget the Value of Human Life)
5 Months of Revelation formed the Gospel's Program, 5 Months of Revelation will form the Separatist Inheritances* into the New Universe. This is only for the people that remain in the USA (Home of the Jews or Heart of Judah, where the "Events of Revelation" takes place)

Thousand Years (Whole Body)
1. Heaven
2. Satan
3. Babylon
...The gospel is designed to afford equal potential so God is comparing three whole bodies in Revelation 20.

Three Johns (2 Johns in the New Testament, and John in Revelation?)
God completed his Gospel's Law in the New Testament, and when the work was finished the Third John reconciled the Law from Heaven. Fast Forward to the Antichrist, "Two Witnesses" equation used to confirm the covenant, and then the Antichrist is allowed to reign, the Third Time the Antichrist identifies with the New Heaven, just like John the third time identified with Heaven, as recorded in Revelation.

Two Beasts not the Two Witnesses
Two Beasts = Jesus and Babylon
Two Witnesses = Jesus and Antichrist
...Dehumanization is one of the motivations in "Suicide by Antichrist", a need to kill the Gospel is another motivation, this explains the chemical, electric and behavior treatments in addition to the lethal treatments that are periodically done, none of that means anything. In a few days time, a declaration against Genetic Dan may be made for public safety or they may simply be driven away incoherently from promoting suicide, right now we must keep watch, with these public threats, as this develops. (this is the third time we mentioned, that underestimating the value of human life and the gospel's intention to this effect as a form of simple suicide).

Timeline of the Apocalypse
Lifespan of the Antichrist has an absolute limit, which corresponds to the "Events of Revelation". (Hebrews 4:7, Psalms 78:41). Previous discussion see link near the opening of this reply.

Love and Blessings(the kind of shame and humilation that needs to take place to tone down this public threat we need to see done, God has to address, that's not something the Antichrist wants to become the tone of the "Events of Revelation", more than gathering of the people and saving lives)
 
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Flaminggg

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Futurists? Summarize the 1000 Year Parables of Revelation 20 to be literal description that happens here on earth after the "Events of Revelation", instead of the New Universe
Recapitulation? Summarize that the Antichrist must be Crucified like Jesus to move the Body of Believers to another Nation/Country
Abomination of Desolation? Summarize that when God told Zacharias/Zechariah to be Silent because he was slain between the Temple and the Congregation, that this did not mean that God was finished with Heavenly Salvation (thus invalidating the love and hope the Antichrist brings in Confirming the Covenant)
Four Beast? Summarize that these are not Spiritual Relationships, like God, Holy Spirit, Satan, Babylon, because they are infact all Islamic Nations planning to blow up the next NYC Freedom Tower?

Love and Blessings (I wanted to take away the Tribulation, but instead, 2/10/2016 is my new watch date, as opposed to 2/12/2016)
 
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KingdomRose

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so what is this?

my new project

another revelation thread?

they deleted the other ones

maybe they are not interested

I did suspect that

so why do it again?

it's my job

Why don't you find out what the Apocalypse is really all about? Most people think it's the end of the world...everything will be destroyed, etc. But the Bible actually teaches something far different. Armageddon is the beginning of something very wonderful. All evil will be cleared out of the earth. We will be able to live in a paradise, without sickness and even death.

Check out this website and you can find out the truth about many things: www.jw.org
 

KingdomRose

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According to Jesus and John, it already happened... unless you really pervert a couple of words to your liking.

Couldn't have already happened. In the Apocalypse it says that Jesus will reign for a thousand years and there will be no more death, no more causes for pain and sadness. That hasn't happened yet!
 

KingdomRose

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Why should I.. they are opened to interpretation.

The fact is that John said these things are 'soon' to happen. I highly doubt that soon in his mind was 2000+ years.

Then there is the fact that Jesus said that some of his audience would still be alive when returned to fulfill all prophesy.

So, either you believe them or you do not. I have confidence that I can take those two people at their word... why cant you?

Nawww. You just don't understand. Jesus spoke of his being revealed in his kingdom glory...that some there would see that...and they DID soon afterward. Peter, James and John saw him glowing like the sun. Matthew 16:28 was fulfilled then and there. Do you read the Bible much?

I imagine that to God 2,000 years going by is "soon." Didn't God, through Jesus, tell John what to write? It would be "soon" to God.

"One day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." (2 Peter 3:8; Psalm 90:4)
 

KingdomRose

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so how long have you been working on this?

17 years

how long have you been on tol?

9 years

so you came here to share all this with us?

yes

you must have been disappointed

yes

are you still disappointed?

I am having a good time

nice to hear that

17 years and you still haven't arrived at the truth of the matter? www.jw.org
 

KingdomRose

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also
who is antipas?
no one seems to know anything about him

Revelation 2:13 calls Pergamum the city "where the throne of Satan is." The phrase has been referred to the complex of pagan cults, but the main allusion is probably to emperor worship. Since the martyrdom of Antipas is mentioned in the same verse, Antipas may have been killed for refusing to worship Caesar. Beyond that, I guess we would have to go to non-sacred material to try and find out more about Antipas, such as "False Prophet" has offered.
 

KingdomRose

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so why doesn't he mention the antichrist?
why does he use his name four times?
why does he not use the name of Jesus in so many chapters?

John does mention the anti-christ in IJohn 2:18, 4:3; 2John 7. Why would we expect him to mention it again in the Apocalypse? It is not the same as the Beast. Who do you mean when you say, "Why does he use his name four times"? Whose name?
 

chrysostom

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John does mention the anti-christ in IJohn 2:18, 4:3; 2John 7. Why would we expect him to mention it again in the Apocalypse? It is not the same as the Beast. Who do you mean when you say, "Why does he use his name four times"? Whose name?

john mentions his name, john, four times in the apocalypse
 
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