Study: Homophobes Might Be Hidden Homosexuals

Arthur Brain

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I am not arguing it, just mentioning it.
It appears to be worldwide phenomena, and I found a relatively safe link on the matter.
List of pedophile and pederast advocacy organizations From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's already documented that there are groups who advocate this crap, just nothing to bear out a realistic argument that the molesting of children would ever become legal, certainly not in the West.

I can't find any groups that are working to legalize rape.
Your "slippery slope" argument hasn't hit the radar of any of the groups wanting to legalize the next batch of sexual perversions.

Violating someone without their ability to give informed consent is what if not rape? If a 40 year old has sexual intercourse with a minor then what would you class that as?

Considering the list I made is quite smaller than the list of 12 perversions the American DOJ supposedly wants to legalize, and is well documented and can be found with a simple google search, your claims that I am unable to exercise critical thinking is unfounded.

Considering that your "slippery slope" argument is undocumented and returns almost no relevant hits on google, it appears that your ability to exercise critical thinking is compromised.

What, does google do all of your thinking for you or something? Do the math and add things up yourself for once.
 

genuineoriginal

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It's already documented that there are groups who advocate this crap, just nothing to bear out a realistic argument that the molesting of children would ever become legal, certainly not in the West.
The very same things were said about homosexuality becoming legal only 20 years ago.
You are not doing very well at this, are you?

What, does google do all of your thinking for you or something? Do the math and add things up yourself for once.
Google is merely a quick verification tool.

You can use it to verify if what someone says is an upcoming trend is actually a trend, such as the push for legalization of pedophilia, or if your "slippery slope" argument that rape can be legalized soon is supported by anyone.

If you really want to know how the "informed consent" issue will be dealt with, then google it and be prepared to vomit because of what you may find.
I choose not to take that chance, just knowing that these organizations exist is enough for me to deduce that they have a plan for dealing with problems like that.
 

Quetzal

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what is it with you retards and your reliance on "consenting adults"?

adults consent to do all sorts of vile things that should be controlled in a moral society
Perhaps, but your opinion does not make up society. The conservative base no longer makes up the majority of society. Deal with it.
 

Quetzal

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what is it with you retards and your reliance on "consenting adults"?

adults consent to do all sorts of vile things that should be controlled in a moral society
Also, just because you don't respect consent, doesn't mean others should ignore it, too.
 

Arthur Brain

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The very same things were said about homosexuality becoming legal only 20 years ago.
You are not doing very well at this, are you?

Erm, homosexuality has been legal for more than twenty years dude, you're completely atrocious at this never mind not doing very well.

To state the obvious: Society, a civilized one at any rate, does not deprive consenting adults of a private life whether straight, gay or bi, emphasis on the words 'adult' and 'consenting' there.


Google is merely a quick verification tool.

You can use it to verify if what someone says is an upcoming trend is actually a trend, such as the push for legalization of pedophilia, or if your "slippery slope" argument that rape can be legalized soon is supported by anyone.

If you really want to know how the "informed consent" issue will be dealt with, then google it and be prepared to vomit because of what you may find.
I choose not to take that chance, just knowing that these organizations exist is enough for me to deduce that they have a plan for dealing with problems like that.

Then use your 'verification tool' to search the zero tolerance policies in regards to child abuse and crackdowns on child sex trafficking/internet porn etc.
 

genuineoriginal

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Erm, homosexuality has been legal for more than twenty years dude, you're completely atrocious at this never mind not doing very well.
In the USA, legalization began in 2003.
Whether England had legalized homosexuality for much longer is immaterial.

Then use your 'verification tool' to search the zero tolerance policies in regards to child abuse and crackdowns on child sex trafficking/internet porn etc.
Here are some of the headlines, I won't be providing links

Is a zero-tolerance approach really the best way to stop paedophiles from abusing children?
SICK: Look What Bernie Sanders Just Did For This Pedophilia
'Zero tolerance' policy toward pedophile priests criticized by liberal Catholic group
Pedophilia Deserves Civil Rights, Says New York Times’ Op-Ed
Refusing to Tolerate the Intolerable
‘Mild pedophilia’: Cockroach Richard Dawkins brazenly defends sexual abuse of children
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
Perhaps, but your opinion does not make up society. The conservative base no longer makes up the majority of society. Deal with it.

we do deal with it

by showing retarded liberal perverts like you where your retarded liberal perverted policies are taking us
 

Arthur Brain

Well-known member
In the USA, legalization began in 2003.
Whether England had legalized homosexuality for much longer is immaterial.

It started before that and I think you've just used the headline of a wiki article. Do better.

Here are some of the headlines, I won't be providing links

Is a zero-tolerance approach really the best way to stop paedophiles from abusing children?
SICK: Look What Bernie Sanders Just Did For This Pedophilia
'Zero tolerance' policy toward pedophile priests criticized by liberal Catholic group
Pedophilia Deserves Civil Rights, Says New York Times’ Op-Ed
Refusing to Tolerate the Intolerable
‘Mild pedophilia’: Cockroach Richard Dawkins brazenly defends sexual abuse of children

Uh, so this is supposed to be an argument for what exactly? That the floodgates are likely to open for pedophilia to become legal? To be accepted in society as a whole? Heck, I googled the Dawkins tweets and despite being ill advised he did feel obliged to point out that nothing he described was an endorsement of rape/pedophilia in any way but rather that one scenario could be worse than another, so that's hardly a 'brazen defense of the sexual abuse of children' is it?
 

zoo22

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:chuckle: We will see!

Well, we've already seen that it's actually Christians who've been spearheading the acceptance of polygamy by getting anti-polygamy laws overturned based on their "sincere religious belief." The times I've brought it up at TOL, no one really seemed to want to talk about it, even the "what about my religious freedoms!?" folks. Maybe I'll start a thread about it.

This thread is more about studies and articles showing that some people's homophobia might be rooted in their being gay themselves. We've seen it here before when Just Tom, who was one of TOL's most outspoken anti-gay warriors eventually, after years of his angry and obsessive anti-gay crusades, eventually said he was a closeted homosexual.

Like this article:

Are Homophobic People Really Gay and Not Accepting It?

I'm inclined to believe that for some people this is the case.
 

genuineoriginal

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This thread is more about studies and articles showing that some people's homophobia might be rooted in their being gay themselves.

I'm inclined to believe that for some people this is the case.

Yes, for some people it is the case, just like some people choose to be homosexual.
 

Town Heretic

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This is just proof that there are forces working hard to destroy the "informed consent" and "age of consent" barriers you think protect against pedophilia.
There's always some faction looking for anything, but as the only one here trained in the thing under consideration, there is literally no reasonable way to suggest that consent can or will be undone as it applies to contract. And the age of consent has moved because we know something now that we didn't know before, when we tied law to the purely experiential, something we can't unknow and that isn't going to change: kids literally, biologically are incapable of informed consent. Their judgments are at best grossly compromised by the development of their prefrontal cortex and most of their decisions are made in the "Whooo, watch this!" area of the brain. That's one reason the laws relating to children have gotten progressively better and tougher even as adults have been given more latitude.

For those in need of a quick summary of what the prefrontal does, here's a good bit from WiseGeek.org:

"The prefrontal cortex (PFC) is located in the very front of the brain, just behind the forehead. In charge of abstract thinking and thought analysis, it is also responsible for regulating behavior. This includes mediating conflicting thoughts, making choices between right and wrong, and predicting the probable outcomes of actions or events. This brain area also governs social control, such as suppressing emotional or sexual urges. Since the prefrontal cortex is the brain center responsible for taking in data through the body's senses and deciding on actions, it is most strongly implicated in human qualities like consciousness, general intelligence, and personality."​

As for consent, consent is the cornerstone of all contract law. To unhorse it you'd have to literally unwind the law as it applies to the thing that matters more to the stability and happiness of the most powerful player in the compact: corporations.

So,polygamy? Sure, it will eventually be considered. Hard to see it happening in this climate and, as I noted, it does change the nature of the contract, but it's still a contract that can be understood and enforced and there's historical precedent for the arrangement. At some point it's going to be debated.

But pedophilia gaining legal support? Not. Going. To. Happen.

You'll get an honest Congress before that...well, no, you'll get an honest Congress right after you eradicate corporate power, but it won't matter because the world will already be on fire. :plain:
 

Angel4Truth

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Well, no, no they don't...

Julie Bindel: You can choose to be gay – I chose to live my life as a lesbian


There are many others that admit it also.

“I’m not the only person saying this. I’ve met a huge number of lesbians who say, ‘I don’t believe I was born that way, and I believe any woman can be a lesbian and believe we’re stopped from feeling sexual attraction to the same sex because of external pressure’.

“For women who live under a compulsory heterosexual model, it can be liberating.

“All I know is I’ve never been convinced by a scientific argument, or seen any evidence that is compelling that there is something innate about our sexuality.
 
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