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So it is your claim that Leviticus 16 is not about Jesus? Where does scripture define what J the B called "the Lamb of God"? Where did he get that term?

What on earth are you talking about J the B? You don't think J the B should have said Jesus is the kid of God do you?

The Passover was lamb's blood.

The priests shed lamb's blood for the forgiveness of sins.
 

clefty

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It's lamb's blood for the passing over.

You do this on purpose yes?


Passover happened ONCE...back in Egypt all the rest of the times were memorials to that one time event when they believed and claimed they were descendents of Abraham and had faith and obeyed his God...yes of course we all are passed over every day its called grace long suffering and mercy on His part...as sin remains...has not been removed...you can reject all you want but at least learn about His Times and Festivals

Passover does NOT remove sin...as it is a thank offering and not a sin offering...is why there remains another sacrifice for that...the removal of sins and of the WORLD not just jews in the desert

not only did His blood please His Father for His Wrath to passover but as Paul CLEARLY WRITES there remains still good things to come...when the sin of not just jews but THE WHOLE WORLD is done away with...IS NO MORE

Thats still to come is why we still have feast of trumpets to announce it then the day of atONEment to receive our reward whether good or bad and finally the festival of tabernacles when we are in heaven in temporary homes as the earth lies desolate for a 1000 years...our permanent homes the new earth and new heaven are prepared...SEE? still good things to come...the Lamb FINALLY REMOVES THE SINS OF THE WORLD...as John the Baptist stated...casting the originator and DEATH itself into the pit...there finally GONE SIN IS NO MORE ANYWHERE...not even a remembrance...

The Lamb is indeed on the throne a symbol of His Father’s grace and mercy passing over us again and again...the sacrifice He gave...and on the throne is not a goat the symbol of sin...

Imagine having a reminder of sin to look at for eternity....YUCK...oh wait most christians want that too...”hey let’s go watch our loved ones agonizing still in eternal fires again”
 

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You do this on purpose yes?


Passover happened ONCE...
Wow no kidding.
back in Egypt all the rest of the times were memorials to that one time event when they believed and claimed they were descendents of Abraham and had faith and obeyed his God...yes of course we all are passed over every day its called grace long suffering and mercy on His part...as sin remains...has not been removed...
The lamb's blood on passing over is not the same as shedding the lamb's blood for the forgiveness of sins. Why do you have so much trouble with that?

you can reject all you want but at least learn about His Times and Festivals

You are the one who needs to learn. You don't even get it that Jesus blood washes away our sins NOW if we come to him and repent.
Passover does NOT remove sin...

You are imagining that I said it did or you are straight out pretending I did.

as it is a thank offering

What do you think is a thank offering?

and not a sin offering...is why there remains another sacrifice for that...the removal of sins and of the WORLD not just jews in the desert
You are so confused.
not only did His blood please His Father for His Wrath to passover but as Paul CLEARLY WRITES there remains still good things to come...

You just can't get your mind around it that Paul was speaking in the present about the distant past and the not so distant past.

Jesus is the GOOD that came.

when the sin of not just jews but THE WHOLE WORLD is done away with...IS NO MORE

When Jesus comes again, you had better already of had your sins washed away.

The Lamb is indeed on the throne a symbol of His Father’s grace and mercy passing over us again and again...the sacrifice He gave...and on the throne is not a goat the symbol of sin...

You have to have your sins washed away by the blood of the Lamb before Jesus comes, because when he comes again,he will not bear sins.
 

clefty

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Wow no kidding.
wasnt...you are seriously confused...

The lamb's blood on passing over is not the same as shedding the lamb's blood for the forgiveness of sins. Why do you have so much trouble with that?
I don’t because I know if it is to be a lamb that is a sin offering well then it must be FEMALE...Lev 4:32





You are the one who needs to learn.
learn patience and long suffering for you yes...

You don't even get it that Jesus blood washes away our sins NOW if we come to him and repent.
do you really think sin can be washed away literally? That we are SINLESS coming out of the water...able to continue on without need for grace or further regeneration...passover was NOT even a sin offering to deal with sin...is WHY it is all around and even in your lying posts...it has NOT BEEN DONE AWAY WITH


You are imagining that I said it did or you are straight out pretending I did.
you even claim sin is washed away like dirt upon baptism instead of it representing us coming up DEAD to the Law its ministry of death the wages of sin...but ALIVE IN HIM...and now we must overcome and live up to that standard HIS standard as you said...never sinless...just with less sin ...certainly never lawless or one law less...



What do you think is a thank offering?
a thanks...not dealing with sin...you correct your error as you know you sin and then come to give thanks...

Sin offerings dealt with UNINTENTIONAL SIN...all the others you restore your wrong...


You are so confused.
because I understand when He as the Lamb removes the sins of the world...and not just the sins of the jews?


You just can't get your mind around it that Paul was speaking in the present about the distant past and the not so distant past.

Jesus is the GOOD that came.
first you destroy His IMMUTABLE eternal law and now you destroy grammar and tense to make Paul say what he could have said in greek but DID NOT

Shadows are the good things still to come...you make Jesus a thingS plural...and He is STILL coming to DO AWAY WITH SIN that is good to right? You know actually kill the source...into the pit and it consequences DEATH...NO MORE



When Jesus comes again, you had better already of had your sins washed away.
He will reward His own and the rest of the world...

See? Good things STILL to come...



You have to have your sins washed away by the blood of the Lamb before Jesus comes, because when he comes again,he will not bear sins.

Where do you come up with this? Why would He Bear sin?...when He comes again He bears our reward...or we die...we are atONEment with Him or we die our Master sent out into the desert for 1000 years...

The High Priest did NOT bear sin the goat did...learn the His festivals please...your catholic is really putting a veil over your eyes reading the scriptures...especially the OT...are you jewish?

I only ask cuz you claim as they do that Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered Luke was clear these jews were to stir up the people with this false witness...Acts 6:13-14 and yet here you are doing the same as they...
 

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do you really think sin can be washed away literally? That we are SINLESS coming out of the water...able to continue on without need for grace or further regeneration

You don't believe in what Jesus says so why didn't you say before you weren't a Christian?

Jesus washes away the sins of those who believe and obey Jesus, and then Jesus and the Father live in the saved. That is reconciliation with God.

It is obvious you don't know what grace is because of what what you said, and you don't know what Jesus Christ teaches.

...passover was NOT even a sin offering to deal with sin...is WHY it is all around and even in your lying posts...it has NOT BEEN DONE AWAY WITH
Being passed over is about having a chance at the promised land.

If Jesus doesn't wash away your sins, then you have no life and no promise.
 

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you even claim sin is washed away like dirt upon baptism instead of it representing us coming up DEAD to the Law its ministry of death the wages of sin

No. We are to make a promise to God that we will DIE to the SINS of the world and RAISE up a new creation that lives to please Jesus.

...but ALIVE IN HIM...and now we must overcome and live up to that standard HIS standard as you said...never sinless...just with less sin ...certainly never lawless or one law less...

When a person is saved, they are WASHED CLEAN, MADE PERFECT AND HOLY.

Then they are to live their new lives up to that.

Sin offerings dealt with UNINTENTIONAL SIN...all the others you restore your wrong...

Jesus saves those even from INTENTIONAL SINS, and DAVID IS PROOF of that.

There was NO PURIFICATION/CEREMONIAL sin offering for David and his sins of adultery and murder, BUT HE ASKED GOD TO FORGIVE HIM, and he was forgiven. David was a glimpse at what all could have one day through Jesus.
 

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because I understand when He as the Lamb removes the sins of the world...and not just the sins of the jews?

Jesus removes the sins of people individually when they come to him and repent of their sins.


Shadows are the good things still to come...you make Jesus a thingS plural...and He is STILL coming to DO AWAY WITH SIN that is good to right? You know actually kill the source...into the pit and it consequences DEATH...NO MORE

Jesus' body is what is making those shadows that is what the BIBLE SAYS.

The shadows are of Jesus.

Jesus came and now we do what he says and we live in the light. There are NO SHADOWS IN LIGHT.

He will reward His own and the rest of the world...

See? Good things STILL to come...

Those who get rewarded are those who are reconciled to Jesus now before he comes again.
Where do you come up with this? Why would He Bear sin?...when He comes again He bears our reward...or we die...we are atONEment with Him or we die our Master sent out into the desert for 1000 years...
When we get saved is when we become one with him.

The High Priest did NOT bear sin the goat did...learn the His festivals please...your catholic is really putting a veil over your eyes reading the scriptures...especially the OT...are you jewish?
You are just being bad when you ask me if I am Catholic.

Jesus is the High Priest. The high priest made the atonement in the old testament.


I only ask cuz you claim as they do that Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered Luke was clear these jews were to stir up the people with this false witness...Acts 6:13-14 and yet here you are doing the same as they...

You are blocked from seeing that Jesus fulfilled the law and the prophets. Why can't you see that special days are about Jesus and that Jesus came and there are no more shadows in the light.
 

clefty

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You don't believe in what Jesus says so why didn't you say before you weren't a Christian?
sure I believe what He said...is He really a door? Is He actually a path...a vine...are branches? Is He really a Lamb with wool? You do understand spiritual yes? Or do you think when the scape goat received the sins of Israel for that year it felt the weight literally “Hmmm heavier than last year”...Sin is an attitude a rebellion an act or intention FROM WITHIN...is what the the heart must be circumcised LITERALLY? Washing is symbolic or cleansing and just like in the OT when one became unclean they washed and waited for sundown...NOTHING THEY DID such Grace to be made clean again and restored to camp...again a symbol

washing multiple times a day was the norm but baptism also took on the understanding that we are buried to our former self and return to the surface ALIVE IN HIM....

Jesus washes away the sins of those who believe and obey Jesus, and then Jesus and the Father live in the saved. That is reconciliation with God.
once resurrected in Him or cleaned by Him there is a following Him His WAY and not just the parts you want to...what you decide to...

It is obvious you don't know what grace is because of what what you said, and you don't know what Jesus Christ teaches.
grace is being forgiven and remaining forgiven as long as we WANT to obey...just like Israel in the desert became unclean over and over again...they were made clean over and over again...as long as they repented which means not only sorry but actually not doing it again...grace allows that sorry to be proved...

Paul understood he had to overcome endure persersevere to the end and even did not do what he loved but what he hated...One time grace perfecting one making one sinless means no need for further grace or regeneration or continued work He started in us....work out your salvation why all the warnings of false teachings or wolves that would steal your reward...you really think the thief on the cross could go back to his theiving once saved?

Grace is actually knowing what to do to make right and keep right with Him...to please Him...by DOING not just claiming...His Way...not just some...never lawless or one law less...

Being passed over is about having a chance at the promised land.
is that all for you...wanna walk on gold slide down giraffe necks? How about become more and more LIKE HIM...regenerating away from your old ways and the world and following Him ...loving JUST AS He did...

Israel was saved passed over and yet that generation DID NOT MAKE THE PROMISED LAND...obviously just being saved once is NOT enough...faith without works is dead...

If Jesus doesn't wash away your sins, then you have no life and no promise.

Passover did NOT do away with the sins of the world...you can wash anytime...He will...but only ONCE will He do away with the sins of the world...a shadow of good things STILL to come...
 

clefty

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No. We are to make a promise to God that we will DIE to the SINS of the world and RAISE up a new creation that lives to please Jesus.
that is a personal matter...He will also deal with the sins of the world...CORPORATELY...like the High Priest did on the day of atonement...all the sins of Israel...not just jews...



When a person is saved, they are WASHED CLEAN, MADE PERFECT AND HOLY.
yes again personally but when a person is saved the whole world is NOT FLOODED to wash ALL ITS SINS AWAY...is why sin remains and we must OVERCOME still...

Then they are to live their new lives up to that.
sure...and when they fail they have grace...neat eh? Is why they continue to WANT to...just like when they had to leave camp unclean the WANTED to come back after being cleaned and staying clean as best they can well NOW the SPIRIT helps any who wish to stay clean holy and HIS...EVERY day from now on and not just once that day you were saved...



Jesus saves those even from INTENTIONAL SINS, and DAVID IS PROOF of that.
LOL...yes we repent intentional sins...but the sin sacrifices was for UNINTENTIONAL SINS sins we did NOT KNOW we did...sins of OMISSION...because sin keeps us UNHOLY and UNABLE to restore with Him

you really need to slow down and read...of course He forgives INTENTIONAL sin as we know what we need to repent from...

There was NO PURIFICATION/CEREMONIAL sin offering for David and his sins of adultery and murder, BUT HE ASKED GOD TO FORGIVE HIM, and he was forgiven. David was a glimpse at what all could have one day through Jesus.

Sin offerings remain about UNINTENTIONAL sins...Passover was NOT dealing with removing sin...especially of the World...
 

clefty

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Jesus removes the sins of people individually when they come to him and repent of their sins.
right but not just that ONE TIME...nor does it do away with the SINS OF THE WORLD...




Jesus' body is what is making those shadows that is what the BIBLE SAYS.
Shadow is of good things to come...still... Jesus is not things ok? Good yes but NOT THINGS...if Paul wanted to say that his Greek could do so...but he chose NOT to write that...

The shadows are
YAAAAAY...yes they still are...

of Jesus.
NOOOOO...please read how in the same text it tells you what the shadows are...Col 2:17 which are shadows OF GOOD THINGS TO COME...Heb 8:5 copy and shadow fo the heavenly things...Jesus is NOT a thing nor plural thingS Heb 10:1 for the LAW having a shadow of the good things to come...THE LAW has the shadow...not Jesus as He is a person NOT A THING or plural thingS...

Jesus came and now we do what he says and we live in the light.
except you do not...you keep every day Sabbath and He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath as was His custom...and asked you do FOLLOW HIM...you don’t follow Him into a Holy day off...you think you are ready to follow Him into your cross?

There are NO SHADOWS IN LIGHT.
right unless there are things in it...like the Law heavenly things good things still to come...



Those who get rewarded are those who are reconciled to Jesus now before he comes again.
sure is WHY our faith NOW compels us to do His WAY until He comes with our reward...good things still to come...

When we get saved is when we become one with him.
sadly you are NOT like Him and His Father are ONE since both of them kept the seventh day Sabbaths and you do NOT...you made up this JesusRest everyday thingy...catholic tradition peer pressure man’s tradition....


You are just being bad when you ask me if I am Catholic.
I didnt ask you if you were catholic...you are...I asked you if you were Jewish for believing as they witnessed falsely that Jesus destroyed the customs Moses delivered...

Jesus is the High Priest. The high priest made the atonement in the old testament.

Right but now the administration of the SAME law is transferred to an Eternal High Priest...




You are blocked from seeing that Jesus fulfilled the law and the prophets.
nope I see that clearly...He taught that on the walk to Emmus...and just like His Love fulfills the Law...fufilling a recipe does not destroy it...like fulfilling the traffic law does not make it void for the driver behind me...




Why can't you see that special days are about Jesus and that Jesus came and there are no more shadows in the light.
they are...still are...your no shadow in light reminds me how clever catholics think they are blaming Him for becoming visible so they can make idols...clever...still false worship
 

God's Truth

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sure I believe what He said...is He really a door? Is He actually a path...a vine...are branches? Is He really a Lamb with wool? You do understand spiritual yes? Or do you think when the scape goat received the sins of Israel for that year it felt the weight literally “Hmmm heavier than last year”...Sin is an attitude a rebellion an act or intention FROM WITHIN...is what the the heart must be circumcised LITERALLY? Washing is symbolic or cleansing and just like in the OT when one became unclean they washed and waited for sundown...NOTHING THEY DID such Grace to be made clean again and restored to camp...again a symbol
So you don't believe what is spiritual?
washing multiple times a day was the norm but baptism also took on the understanding that we are buried to our former self and return to the surface ALIVE IN HIM....
Can you show the scripture that says washing was multiple times a day?

once resurrected in Him or cleaned by Him there is a following Him His WAY and not just the parts you want to...what you decide to...

So are you finally starting to get it that Jesus washes away a person's sins?

You just got through sounding like you didn't believe it.

grace is being forgiven and remaining forgiven as long as we WANT to obey...just like Israel in the desert became unclean over and over again...they were made clean over and over again...as long as they repented which means not only sorry but actually not doing it again...grace allows that sorry to be proved...

Paul understood he had to overcome endure persersevere to the end and even did not do what he loved but what he hated...

Paul is talking about a person under the old law without faith.

One time grace perfecting one making one sinless means no need for further grace or regeneration or continued work He started in us....

We are regenerated when we are saved. Regenerated means we received the Holy Spirit.

We don't keep getting regenerated.

work out your salvation why all the warnings of false teachings or wolves that would steal your reward...you really think the thief on the cross could go back to his theiving once saved?
What are you talking about?

Grace is actually knowing what to do to make right and keep right with Him...to please Him...by DOING not just claiming...His Way...not just some...never lawless or one law less...

is that all for you...wanna walk on gold slide down giraffe necks? How about become more and more LIKE HIM...regenerating away from your old ways and the world and following Him ...loving JUST AS He did...

Israel was saved passed over and yet that generation DID NOT MAKE THE PROMISED LAND...obviously just being saved once is NOT enough...faith without works is dead...

We are supposed to be saved once.

Passover did NOT do away with the sins of the world...you can wash anytime...He will...but only ONCE will He do away with the sins of the world...a shadow of good things STILL to come...

You reject the truth. Jesus' body caused the shadow, and then he came. There are no shadows in light.
 

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that is a personal matter...He will also deal with the sins of the world...CORPORATELY...like the High Priest did on the day of atonement...all the sins of Israel...not just jews...

You said the high priest didn't atone for sins. Do you really think you should say something wrong and say I got it wrong and then go on as if it never happened?

Nothing like teaching someone something and then they get it but then they go on as if they are teaching you.
 

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yes again personally but when a person is saved the whole world is NOT FLOODED to wash ALL ITS SINS AWAY...is why sin remains and we must OVERCOME still...

sure...and when they fail they have grace...neat eh? Is why they continue to WANT to...just like when they had to leave camp unclean the WANTED to come back after being cleaned and staying clean as best they can well NOW the SPIRIT helps any who wish to stay clean holy and HIS...EVERY day from now on and not just once that day you were saved...

LOL...yes we repent intentional sins...but the sin sacrifices was for UNINTENTIONAL SINS sins we did NOT KNOW we did...sins of OMISSION...because sin keeps us UNHOLY and UNABLE to restore with Him
People knew what their sins were.

you really need to slow down and read...of course He forgives INTENTIONAL sin as we know what we need to repent from...
You think you are going to get away with acting like I didn't teach you but that you are teaching me?

Does it get much more crooked than that?
 

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right but not just that ONE TIME...nor does it do away with the SINS OF THE WORLD...


Shadow is of good things to come...still... Jesus is not things ok? Good yes but NOT THINGS...if Paul wanted to say that his Greek could do so...but he chose NOT to write that...

YAAAAAY...yes they still are...

NOOOOO...please read how in the same text it tells you what the shadows are...Col 2:17 which are shadows OF GOOD THINGS TO COME...Heb 8:5 copy and shadow fo the heavenly things...Jesus is NOT a thing nor plural thingS Heb 10:1 for the LAW having a shadow of the good things to come...THE LAW has the shadow...not Jesus as He is a person NOT A THING or plural thingS...

except you do not...you keep every day Sabbath and He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath as was His custom...and asked you do FOLLOW HIM...you don’t follow Him into a Holy day off...you think you are ready to follow Him into your cross?

right unless there are things in it...like the Law heavenly things good things still to come...



sure is WHY our faith NOW compels us to do His WAY until He comes with our reward...good things still to come...

sadly you are NOT like Him and His Father are ONE since both of them kept the seventh day Sabbaths and you do NOT...you made up this JesusRest everyday thingy...catholic tradition peer pressure man’s tradition....


I didnt ask you if you were catholic...you are...I asked you if you were Jewish for believing as they witnessed falsely that Jesus destroyed the customs Moses delivered...



Right but now the administration of the SAME law is transferred to an Eternal High Priest...




nope I see that clearly...He taught that on the walk to Emmus...and just like His Love fulfills the Law...fufilling a recipe does not destroy it...like fulfilling the traffic law does not make it void for the driver behind me...




they are...still are...your no shadow in light reminds me how clever catholics think they are blaming Him for becoming visible so they can make idols...clever...still false worship

I'm not going to read this tripe.
 

clefty

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So you don't believe what is spiritual?
exactly backwards...I don’t believe when He says He was a door we are to walk through Him...or when He says I am the path that we are to walk on Him...

Just like He is NOT literally in the bread we eat in Remembrance of Him.

But in the spiritual lessons these symbols teach I DO believe...like the circumcised heart or having an inner jew Paul told Romans about

Ya dig?

Can you show the scripture that says washing was multiple times a day?
sure thing...

Matt 15:2 Mark 7:5 beyond Mikvahs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikveh the jews had made many traditions regarding washings for cleansing and purification’s.

Yahushua used an attempt by the Pharisees to trap Him for a better teaching on what Yah expected...NOT man’s traditions...Matt 7:8-9

these MAN’S TRADITIONS were to be abolished as was the enmity of jew towards gentiles found on a wall He destroyed between Jews and Gentiles...in commandments contained in ordinances...Eph 2:15

Can you read the enmity?

temple-inscription-herodian.jpg


https://leonmauldin.blog/2010/04/01/herodian-temple-inscription/

Obviously Yah seeks to have His Word left alone no adding or subtracting like the first woman did...you follow her...DO NOT

Apparently submersion of adults not just washing...or sprinkling...was accepted...



So are you finally starting to get it that Jesus washes away a person's sins?
ummm...again...sin is not like dirt you literally wash away https://biblehub.com/1_peter/3-21.htm

And Passover did NOT deal with sin...

You just got through sounding like you didn't believe it.
what I sound like to you concerns me less and less...maybe after a good night’s sleep you can hear what I say otherwise...



Paul is talking about a person under the old law without faith.
good grief you twist to your own destruction...Paul clearly encourages BELIEVERS stay faithful not lose their salvation...Peter admonishes watch out for false teachers wolves...NOT returning to your own vomit after hearing the commandment...

DO NOT MAKE IMAGES...or ADD to the WORD or lose your reward or make up your own woman’s traditions...LOL



We are regenerated when we are saved. Regenerated means we received the Holy Spirit.

We don't keep getting regenerated.
oh my...


What are you talking about?
what the thief on the cross? Had he lived you think he could go back to criminal behavior?...you think he would never be tempted or need encouraging to strong faithful true to his new way...led by the Spirit...still needing grace...still needing repentance to turn back...?

6 of the 7 churches in Rev 2 needed to repent and turn back...

I forgot you exactly INVERT your catholic way...

rather than ONE time sacrifice YOU insist they say it’s billions of times...

instead of constant confession and need of works to repent YOU insist once saved always saved...

Your rebellion is 100%



We are supposed to be saved once.
and then?



You reject the truth. Jesus' body caused the shadow, and then he came.
How can His body cause a shadow before it is incarnate? Paul is clear the festivals food and drink ARE a shadow of good THINGS to come...still to come

There are no shadows in light.
you think yourself clever...I will heed Col 2:8
 

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exactly backwards...I don’t believe when He says He was a door we are to walk through Him...or when He says I am the path that we are to walk on Him...

Just like He is NOT literally in the bread we eat in Remembrance of Him.
We have to go through Jesus to get to the Father. He is the Way. We have to eat and drink of him, which is done by believing and obeying him.

But in the spiritual lessons these symbols teach I DO believe...like the circumcised heart or having an inner jew Paul told Romans about

Ya dig?

sure thing...

Matt 15:2 Mark 7:5 beyond Mikvahs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikveh the jews had made many traditions regarding washings for cleansing and purification’s.

Those scriptures don't speak of multiple washings a day for sin.

Yahushua used an attempt by the Pharisees to trap Him for a better teaching on what Yah expected...NOT man’s traditions...Matt 7:8-9

these MAN’S TRADITIONS were to be abolished as was the enmity of jew towards gentiles found on a wall He destroyed between Jews and Gentiles...in commandments contained in ordinances...Eph 2:15

No, it is not about man's made up traditions. That scripture is about the rules and regulations which are the purification works of the law.

Can you read the enmity?

Obviously Yah seeks to have His Word left alone no adding or subtracting like the first woman did...you follow her...DO NOT

Apparently submersion of adults not just washing...or sprinkling...was accepted...

You don't even have understanding, and you follow things taught by man.

See 1 Timothy 4:1.

ummm...again...sin is not like dirt you literally wash away https://biblehub.com/1_peter/3-21.htm

And Passover did NOT deal with sin...

You have come to Jesus and repent of your sins and believe his blood washes away your sins or you are still condemned and under a curse.


John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.


what I sound like to you concerns me less and less...maybe after a good night’s sleep you can hear what I say otherwise..

good grief you twist to your own destruction...Paul clearly encourages BELIEVERS stay faithful not lose their salvation...Peter admonishes watch out for false teachers wolves...NOT returning to your own vomit after hearing the commandment...

DO NOT MAKE IMAGES...or ADD to the WORD or lose your reward or make up your own woman’s traditions...LOL

You don't understand the scriptures. Paul is speaking about people under the law without faith.

How would you ever get that Paul was speaking about him only doing the evil he hates to do?

You are a false witness to Paul and the scriptures.

Romans 7:5 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do.

So Paul ONLY DID WHAT HE HATED?

Who but an ignorant unstable person would think that Paul after he was saved only did what he hated to do?

Paul is speaking of being under the law before living by the Spirit. Paul was not sold as a slave to sin after Jesus saved him! Paul says plainly, “I am unspiritual.” How do you get that Paul is speaking of himself AFTER Jesus saved him? After Jesus saved him Paul was spiritual, and he lived according to the Spirit.

oh my...

what the thief on the cross? Had he lived you think he could go back to criminal behavior?...you think he would never be tempted or need encouraging to strong faithful true to his new way...led by the Spirit...still needing grace...still needing repentance to turn back...?

6 of the 7 churches in Rev 2 needed to repent and turn back...

I forgot you exactly INVERT your catholic way...

rather than ONE time sacrifice YOU insist they say it’s billions of times...

instead of constant confession and need of works to repent YOU insist once saved always saved...

Your rebellion is 100%

You prove you are the one.

There is only one baptism of the Spirit, and that is regeneration. We don't get regenerated repeatedly.


and then?

We have to train ourselves and not keep sinning.

How can His body cause a shadow before it is incarnate?

The scripture says it is of his body and you need to believe it.

When a man stands with the light behind him his body gives off a shadow.


Paul is clear the festivals food and drink ARE a shadow of good THINGS to come...still to come

Those things were a shadow of Jesus. Jesus came and there are no more shadows.

you think yourself clever...I will heed Col 2:8

Jesus has given me the wisdom.
 

clefty

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People knew what their sins were.
doesnt matter...passover is NOT about sin...atONEment is...a sin sacrifice...for sins committed in ignorance Heb 9:7 and once you sin knowing the Law there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins...just fearful expectation of judgement Heb 10:26

You God’s Truth trample the Son of Yah counting the blood of the covenant BY WHICH HE WAS SANCTIFIED a COMMON thing...and insulted the Spirit of Grace Heb 10:29 claiming you follow when you clearly dont...

and now even in this case with ONE TIME COMPLETE REGENERATION which rejects any further need of Him...


You think you are going to get away with acting like I didn't teach you but that you are teaching me?

Does it get much more crooked than that?
don’t get upset cuz you didn’t know what passover is NOT dealing with sin or that sacrifices are for unintentional sin ONLY...the intentional ones you have to deal with...or who knows why are you so upset?
 
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