CRASH
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If a radical Christian murders, rapes, or commits other crimes worthy of death then of course!
Should homosexuals be given the death penalty?
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If a radical Christian murders, rapes, or commits other crimes worthy of death then of course!
PKevman
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Kimberly. Have you seen anywhere on this website where this question was clearly answered? Perhaps you should read Turbo's Battle Royale if you haven't already. Seriously, it is very good.
In any case, the brief answer is that things that were symbolic laws and commanded TO Israel, and only TO Israel (such as keeping the Sabbath), have passed away. Things that are MORAL laws apply to all (such as do not murder).
Given THAT answer, how would you look at those verses and determine which laws should be punishable by death and which ones should not?
PKevman
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:up:
The answer is so simple, and yet so many on here continue to pretend they don't understand it.
Memento Mori
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Matt 5:18for, verily I say to you, till that the heaven and the earth may pass away, one iota or one tittle may not pass away from the law, till that all may come to pass.
Well if God's Moral Laws are still in place then so are all His other laws. You can't keep God's Moral Laws and throw out the rest.
I used this argument on Delmar but I made a bad approach for it. I would just like to apologize to Delmar for that. I'm sorry, Delmar. I didn't intend to anger you. I just simple wanted to discuss the issue.
JustinFoldsFive
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PastorKevin said:
Is there scriptural backing for this supposed difference between moral and symbolic law? In other words, which Biblical passages let us know that you're not simply picking and choosing which laws to enforce?
zoo22
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Talking liquor?? That definitely sounds like something that ought to be executed.
Involuntary LOL here...
dying_star
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:chuckle:
csuguy
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Either take the Law or take Grace. If you choose the Law then take the whole law, for you have given up grace and only by fufilling all the Law can you be declared righteous before God. What's that? It's impossible?! Well then you'd better take Grace and stop trying to enforce the Law.
C'mon Shimei, earlier in this thread you moaned how difficult it was to get a 'yes' or 'no' answer, so how come you arent giving one? i asked you if you think adultery should be 'encouraged' to be brought back as a capital crime, do you think it should - yes or no?
:rotfl: :thumb:
Er, that is hardly a good argument for advocating calling folk names, just the opposite in fact....
When did Jesus ever call someone a moron or come up with a petty ad hom for the sake of it against anyone? :think:
He didnt.....
GeneCosta
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It's obvious to anyone this country wasn't founded with the intention of being a banner for Christianity, so why then don't evangelicals use their gigantic purse and buy an island somewhere in the Pacific? You can get a good sized one for a few XXX,XXX. Implement the 'Shadow Gov' there and come back to tell us how it's going.
Unless people are desperate for order, hope, and/or protection, they're not going to hand this secular government over to religious radicals. Any arguement for the implementation of a law is not going to be won on scripture, at least in the West.
Unless people are desperate for order, hope, and/or protection, they're not going to hand this secular government over to religious radicals. Any arguement for the implementation of a law is not going to be won on scripture, at least in the West.
lovemeorhateme
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The moral code still applies. The moral code is the ten commandments.. and the sexual laws. Don't tell me that they don't, because they do. Unless you want to support incest among 'consenting' family members?
Memento Mori
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Well then the Sacrificial Laws must still apply too but I don't see you sacrificing lambs on altars by High Priests. And don't try that "Jesus fulfilled that," because it's all or nothing.
Matt 5:18for, verily I say to you, till that the heaven and the earth may pass away, one iota or one tittle may not pass away from the law, till that all may come to pass.
You cannot pick and choose which Laws will and will not apply to you. Either they all will or none of them will.
csuguy
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THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING!!!
lovemeorhateme
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Wrong.. the crime of homosexuality is not about being attracted to the same gender. The crime is about having sex with the same gender. I know from personal experience, you cannot always help who you are attracted to. However, and here is the key, you can help what you do with that attraction. That is a choice.. and a choice to have sex with someone of the same gender is a sinful one. Of course, for homosexuals to have sex, they break more that just what God has to say on homosexuality.. they also have sex outside of marriage (where God clearly ordains marriage to be for one man and one woman for life).. and they also satisfy lust, which is another sin. So, that is three crimes for one act of sex.