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Why do you continue to lie about what John W believes?
Robert's Gospel According to the Apostle Paul
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I know exactly what John W. believes. He does not believe the Gospel and justification by faith. Like you, he cannot understand the word of God because he is a religious reprobate. Spiritually dead as a rock.
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You continue to LIE about what we believe. You are a model "Christian".
You deny that Christ died for our sins, per 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, on record, as you cannot agreed that He did, since you assert that the law, that defines our future yet uncommitted sins/sin debt when He died, was destroyed, made void, at the cross, and thus there is no sin debt incurred, for which to die.
Tell us if Christ died for our sins, and when, Pate.
Tell us how you say that you sin, when there is no sin debt to be incurred by you, since, according to you, there is no longer God's holy law in existence, it being destroyed, made void, 2000+ years ago, which defines sin, and thus the resulting sin debt, and penalty.
Silence-for over 2 years.
No, you believe that Christ did not die for our sins/sin debt, per 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, on record, as you cannot agreed that He did, since you assert that the law, that defines our future yet uncommitted sins/sin debt when He died, was destroyed, made void, at the cross, and thus there is no sin debt incurred, for which to die. Thus, you assert that He died in vain. Instead, you satanically assert that He did not die for our sins, but died to destroy, make vain the law( although not one scripture, in either the OT, or NT, expounds that His death was necessary, to make that happen, but scripture does testify of the "sacrificial substitute," death, by blood, to satisfy the demands of the law, but not destroy it), so that no one can be condemned, judged by that the law, since that law no longer exists=no law, no transgression/sin, resulting sin debt.
Thus, Pate, on record, asserts that the Saviour did not take our place, in judgment, condemnation, as our substitute, "FOR," dying for us breaking, by definition, the existing holy law of God, to satisfy justice, but instead died to eliminate any possible judgment, condemnation, by destroying, making vain, His own holy, spiritual law.
Thus, Pate, on record, rejects SUBSTITUTIONARY ATONEMENT, replacing it with "Destroy the law, make it void, so that a substitute to take the judgment, condemnation, and resulting penalty for breaking that law is not necessary, since the law defining the sin debt, and the need for a substitute, its principle, is not needed."
It is that simple. But this deceiver will obfuscate,spam verses in isolation, refuse to address challenges to his assertions, lie, pegging almost everyone on TOL as reprobates, not having any evidence of being a Christian, lie, deceive, punt questions, all the while, claiming he is the only one that preaches "The Gospel."
He is a child of the devil, hates the gospel of Christ, on record, denying that Christ died for our sins, sin debt, as there is none.
1 Corinthians 1-4. Is not the Gospel. It is an outline of the Gospel.
The spiritually dead rock does not know what the Gospel is, nor is he capable of understanding it. For the sake of others I will explain what the Gospel is.
The Gospel is that work that Jesus did in our name and on our behalf that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18,19.
All that Jesus is and all that Jesus did is for our salvation and justification.
When Jesus lived, we lived in him. He is our representative savior.
When Jesus died, we died with him.
When Jesus ascended into heaven, we ascended with him.
When Jesus was accepted back into heaven, we were accepted in him.
Our humanity was constituted in him. Jesus came into the world to perfect our humanity and take it back to heaven, Our salvation is in a very safe place, Colossians 3:3.
We have been MADE perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10.
Sin, death and the devil have been destroyed and Jesus is Lord, Acts 2:36. The law has been fulfilled and abolished, Matthew 5:18 and Ephesians 2:15. Where there is law, there is judgment and condemnation.
"There is no condemnation to those that are "In Christ" Romans 8:1.
God sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ, Colossians 1:20. When God looks at us all that he can see is his Son Jesus Christ, Colossians 3:3.
Beware of those false teachers that try to teach doctrine without scripture.
glorydaz
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Good luck preaching that gospel.
Whenever man inserts his own ideas into the Gospel, it loses it's power.
Did you not notice all of the scripture references in my post. The historical Gospel of Jesus Christ is not my idea. It is a biblical fact that can be proven by scripture. You are another one that is as spiritually dead as a rock. The Gospel that I presented to you, did not profit you, Hebrews 4:2.
glorydaz
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You're right, it didn't. I was saved when I heard the Gospel back in 1970. Which means, I am now able to discern your mistreatment of certain scripture references.
I am asking if you are including Judas Iscariot.
Okay. And, you are correct that salvation is not by works.
=dementia, as he asserts that 1 Cor. 15:1-4 is not the gospel of Christ, but merely "an outline."
Did Christ die for our/your sins, sin debt? Yes, or no?
No, your gospel, "Pate-ianity," "good news, is not that Christ died for our sins, you believe that Christ did not die for our sins/sin debt, per 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, on record, as you cannot agreed that He did, since you assert that the law, that defines our future yet uncommitted sins/sin debt when He died, was destroyed, made void, at the cross, and thus there is no sin debt incurred, for which to die. Thus, you assert that He died in vain. Instead, you satanically assert that He did not die for our sins, but died to destroy, make vain the law( although not one scripture, in either the OT, or NT, expounds that His death was necessary, to make that happen, but scripture does testify of the "sacrificial substitute," death, by blood, to satisfy the demands of the law, but not destroy it), so that no one can be condemned, judged by that the law, since that law no longer exists=no law, no transgression/sin, resulting sin debt.
Thus, Pate, on record, asserts that the Saviour did not take our place, in judgment, condemnation, as our substitute, "FOR," dying for us breaking, by definition, the existing holy law of God, to satisfy justice, but instead died to eliminate any possible judgment, condemnation, by destroying, making vain, His own holy, spiritual law.
Thus, Pate, on record, rejects SUBSTITUTIONARY ATONEMENT, replacing it with "Destroy the law, make it void, so that a substitute to take the judgment, condemnation, and resulting penalty for breaking that law is not necessary, since the law defining the sin debt, and the need for a substitute, its principle, is not needed."
It is that simple. But this deceiver will obfuscate,spam verses in isolation, refuse to address challenges to his assertions, lie, pegging almost everyone on TOL as reprobates, not having any evidence of being a Christian, lie, deceive, punt questions, all the while, claiming he is the only one that preaches "The Gospel."
He is a child of the devil, hates the gospel of Christ, on record, denying that Christ died for our sins, sin debt, as there is none.
Spam, evasion, as he will not answer:
Did Christ die for your/our sins, according to the scriptures, which you delete?
Yes, or no?
No, your gospel, "Pate-ianity," "good news, is not that Christ died for our sins, you believe that Christ did not die for our sins/sin debt, per 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, on record, as you cannot agreed that He did, since you assert that the law, that defines our future yet uncommitted sins/sin debt when He died, was destroyed, made void, at the cross, and thus there is no sin debt incurred, for which to die. Thus, you assert that He died in vain. Instead, you satanically assert that He did not die for our sins, but died to destroy, make vain the law( although not one scripture, in either the OT, or NT, expounds that His death was necessary, to make that happen, but scripture does testify of the "sacrificial substitute," death, by blood, to satisfy the demands of the law, but not destroy it), so that no one can be condemned, judged by that the law, since that law no longer exists=no law, no transgression/sin, resulting sin debt.
Thus, Pate, on record, asserts that the Saviour did not take our place, in judgment, condemnation, as our substitute, "FOR," dying for us breaking, by definition, the existing holy law of God, to satisfy justice, but instead died to eliminate any possible judgment, condemnation, by destroying, making vain, His own holy, spiritual law.
Thus, Pate, on record, rejects SUBSTITUTIONARY ATONEMENT, replacing it with "Destroy the law, make it void, so that a substitute to take the judgment, condemnation, and resulting penalty for breaking that law is not necessary, since the law defining the sin debt, and the need for a substitute, its principle, is not needed."
It is that simple. But this deceiver will obfuscate,spam verses in isolation, refuse to address challenges to his assertions, lie, pegging almost everyone on TOL as reprobates, not having any evidence of being a Christian, lie, deceive, punt questions, all the while, claiming he is the only one that preaches "The Gospel."
Spam, evasion, changing the subject, asserting, denying, that Christ died for our sins, per 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, on record, as you cannot agreed that He did, since you assert that the law, that defines our future yet uncommitted sins/sin debt when He died, was destroyed, made void, at the cross, and thus there is no sin debt incurred, for which to die.
Tell us if Christ died for our sins, and when, Pate.
Tell us how you say that you sin, when there is no sin debt to be incurred by you, since, according to you, there is no longer God's holy law in existence, it being destroyed, made void, 2000+ years ago, which defines sin, and thus the resulting sin debt, and penalty.
Silence-for over 2 years.
You wicked piece of dung, spamming that on every other post, as you satanically cite scripture, deleting verses preceding, following, corrupting it, as the devil did, with the Saviour in the wilderness, deleting words, adding words, and posting verses in isolation, not explaining them, and deleting 3/4 of the bible.
You wicked satanist.
Tell all of TOL, what/who, gives you the authority, to delete 3/4 of scripture, change/substitute words?
Tell us if Christ died for our sins, and when, Pate.
Tell us how you say that you sin, when there is no sin debt to be incurred by you, since, according to you, there is no longer God's holy law in existence, it being destroyed, made void, 2000+ years ago, which defines sin, and thus the resulting sin debt, and penalty.
Silence-for over 2 years.
Tell us if Christ died for our sins, and when, Pate.
Tell us how you say that you sin, when there is no sin debt to be incurred by you, since, according to you, there is no longer God's holy law in existence, it being destroyed, made void, 2000+ years ago, which defines sin, and thus the resulting sin debt, and penalty.
Silence-for over 2 years.
Because you are spiritually dead you cannot understand spiritual things. I would do better to go talk to a tree or a telephone pole.
For the sake of others I will explain.
There is the physical and then there is the spiritual. Physically we are still here on the earth in our Adamic bodies which are sinful, Romans 7:13-25. Paul said that he was "The Chief of sinners" 1 Timothy 1:15. Spiritually, we are in perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10.
As for the law. Jesus fulfilled the law Matthew 5:18 and then for Christians he abolished it, Ephesians 2:15 plus many other scriptures. Because the Christian is led by the Holy Spirit, not the law. The law has been abolished this is why Paul said "The law is not made for the righteous man" 1 Timothy 1:9.
Those that are religious reprobates like yourself, cannot believe that the law has been abolished, simply because the law is their religion. What the law is to you, Jesus is to the New Testament Christian.
Because you are as spiritually dead as a rock all that you have the power to do is name calling and make false accusations. You do not have the power to teach truth.
Spam, evasion.
Spam, evasion, misdirection.
Tell us if Christ died for our sins, and when, Pate.
Did he die for our sins? Yes, or no? And when?
Tell us how you say that you sin, when there is no sin debt to be incurred by you, since, according to you, there is no longer God's holy law in existence, it being destroyed, made void, 2000+ years ago, which defines sin, and thus the resulting sin debt, and penalty.
Silence-for over 2 years.
No scripture says the above-you satanically interpreted it.
No law, no transgression-no sin/no sin debt.
"For the sake of argument," tell us how you say that you sin, when there is no sin debt to be incurred by you, since, according to you, there is no longer God's holy law in existence, it being destroyed, made void, 2000+ years ago, which defines sin, and thus the resulting sin debt, and penalty. What objective standard, defines the sin debt, you incur, Pate?
ANSWER.
Tell us if Christ died for our sins, and when, Pate.
Tell us how you say that you sin, when there is no sin debt to be incurred by you, since, according to you, there is no longer God's holy law in existence, it being destroyed, made void, 2000+ years ago, which defines sin, and thus the resulting sin debt, and penalty.
Silence-for over 2 years.
Spam, evasion. Tell us how Christ can die for your/our sins, if there is no law, it being made void, defining the sin, and resulting sin debt, penalty?
ANSWER, Pate.
Tell us why you deny that Christ was our substitute, taking our judgement, condemnation in our place denying substitutionary atonement, and instead assert, satanically, that he destroyed the law, so that he need not die in our place, taking our judgment, condemnation, as there is no condemnation, judgement, for which he must die, as there is no law.
Answer the question, Pate, instead of spamming that, which you do, to everyone that disagrees with you, as you assert that you are the only Christian on TOL.
Tell all of TOL, what/who, gives you the authority, to delete 3/4 of scripture, change/substitute words?
Did Christ die for our/your sins, and when? What is the objective standard, that defines what sins you commit?
You won't touch that, you deceiving wolf, in sheep's clothing-2 years of silence.
Did he die for our sins,Pate? Yes, or no? And when?
Tell us how you say that you sin, when there is no sin debt to be incurred by you, since, according to you, there is no longer God's holy law in existence, it being destroyed, made void, 2000+ years ago, which defines sin, and thus the resulting sin debt, and penalty.
Tell us how Christ can die for your/our sins, if there is no law, it being made void, defining the sin, and resulting sin debt, penalty?
ANSWER, Pate.
Tell us why you deny that Christ was our substitute, taking our judgement, condemnation in our place, denying substitutionary atonement, and instead assert, satanically, that he destroyed the law, so that he need not die in our place, taking our judgment, condemnation, as there is no condemnation, judgement, for which he must die, as there is no law.
Tell us how you say that you sin, when there is no sin debt to be incurred by you, since, according to you, there is no longer God's holy law in existence, it being destroyed, made void, 2000+ years ago, which defines sin, and thus the resulting sin debt, and penalty.
Tell us how Christ can die for your/our sins, if there is no law, it being made void, defining the sin, and resulting sin debt, penalty?
ANSWER, Pate.
Tell us why you deny that Christ was our substitute, taking our judgement, condemnation in our place, denying substitutionary atonement, and instead assert, satanically, that he destroyed the law, so that he need not die in our place, taking our judgment, condemnation, as there is no condemnation, judgement, for which he must die, as there is no law.