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You've got to be kidding. He is so far off, I plan to keep him on ignore, and let 'trickle through' keep me posted on his latest make-up colors; depends on his mood you know.
ECT Request for Clarity about Judaism and D'ism
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You've got to be kidding. He is so far off, I plan to keep him on ignore, and let 'trickle through' keep me posted on his latest make-up colors; depends on his mood you know.
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Nick,
you were speaking about 'the whole point of the thread.' Here is the 1st paragraph:
If D'ism has a different eschatology than Judaism had 2000 years go, what is the difference? What is the conflict between Judaism then and the Christian believers then?
Then you thought someone immediately clarified this. What did they say?
you were speaking about 'the whole point of the thread.' Here is the 1st paragraph:
If D'ism has a different eschatology than Judaism had 2000 years go, what is the difference? What is the conflict between Judaism then and the Christian believers then?
Then you thought someone immediately clarified this. What did they say?
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Nick,
I guess this is it--the 'immediate reply to the OP that straightens it out.'
Uh, no thanks. It is nowhere in the teachings of the apostles, and it has no basis. It is STP's attempt to make 2P2P work. I don't know why those people think that is their mission in life but they bend inside outdowns to preserve it.
"For when David served God's purpose (for the land, kingdom) in his generation, he fell asleep." When saying things that way, it means the other event was to be our concern and to be the anchor and organizer of the Bible's statement. We no longer look for the land, kingdom. He says in v19 that that had been accomplished, if anyone thinks God is somehow made a liar. Those purposes are over.
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Some people inherit land
Some people inherit the city
Some people inherit heaven
irrefutable Bible facts
Some people inherit the city
Some people inherit heaven
irrefutable Bible facts
Which one does IP get?
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Heaven, if he believes Paul's gospel.
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Acts 2:30-31 (AKJV/PCE)
(2:30) Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; (2:31) He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
You have a little problem called reading YOUR ideas INTO the scripture.
Peter is speaking about what God said that He WILL do and NOT what He has ALREADY done.
HIS throne there refers to David's throne in Jerusalem.
Luke 1:31-33 (AKJV/PCE)
(1:31) And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. (1:32) He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: (1:33) And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Isa 9:7 (AKJV/PCE)
(9:7) Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
Keep up the bad work there DB.
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No, Peter is not talking about 'something else.' He is saying what the resurrection is. He was raised and exalted. Those are enthronement language. Like Eph 1.
Only a D'ist can explode and decimate a perfectly clear text BY LEAVING IT FOR ANOTHER. Instead, the reality is the other is finalized by this one.
You just made total nonsense out of v34' and its quote, SO THAT YOU CAN PROTECT D'ISM. But the really weird thing is: you just erased the conflict with Judaism. And you don't know it.
But hey, you got praised by Tam, wow!
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btw, using the trusted KJV as you do,
please note that 'God would not leave him in hell' in 27 and 31.
You said today Christ was never in hell.
Would you please start over and stop meddling with the Bible.
please note that 'God would not leave him in hell' in 27 and 31.
You said today Christ was never in hell.
Would you please start over and stop meddling with the Bible.
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RD:
"Seeing this before, he spake of the res..."
THIS was the enthronement. It was found to be the resurrection.
"Seeing this before, he spake of the res..."
THIS was the enthronement. It was found to be the resurrection.
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totally made up
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More of your vain babbling.
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Not being a Greek expert, you missed the enthronement language.
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Raise and exalted are enthronement language. Col 2 says he led a victory procession after the cross on the way to his seat, v15.
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The LORD Jesus Christ is NOT sitting on the throne of His father David.
Luke 1:31-33 (AKJV/PCE)
(1:31) And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. (1:32) He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: (1:33) And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Isa 9:7 (AKJV/PCE)
(9:7) Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
He WILL!
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He is enthroned now and it is our job to proclaim to all creation. Acts 2, Eph 1, Col 1. That's what Luke's passages were about.
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No, He is not and no amount of you saying so will make it so.
David's throne is in Jerusalem and the LORD Jesus Christ will sit upon it.
Mankind was given six days to work and do his own thing.
We are not in the seventh day of rest.
If Jesus was sitting on David's throne in Zion why does Paul reference Satan as the god of this age?
"But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded" (2 Corinthians 4:3-4)
You must be thinking about the world to come. But it's not here yet.
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