Republicans cancel Liz Cheney

[Arthur Brain]

Truth is not changed into a lie by adding millions of deceived dupes to the list of those who believe the truth is a lie.

Well, the actual truth of the matter is that there's no evidence of any widespread fraud but a whole load of bonkers allegations pushed by nutballs like Lindell, Powell, Qanon et al that have come to precisely nought, along with audits etc. The only dupes are those silly enough to buy into such baseless bunk to start with.

 

[Stripe]

In my latter

Wot?

I showed you how the phrase 'white supremacy' can indeed be used in an unironic context.

Not in a democracy.

If someone uses the phrase as you describe then they're being bonkers

That's not much of an argument.

That doesn't mean the term can't be used as an apt descriptor for the far right nutball outfits who embrace it however.

If a group describes itself as white supremacist, I do not have any argument with it regarding their characterization.

However, that has nothing to do with what I said. Anyone who uses a phrase such as "white supremacy," "white privilege" or "systemic racism" to describe a democracy is a racist.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Clearly, you have a mere passing affinity with it.



That's nice.

Now, have you got anything more convincing than a count of the number of people who agree with you and a debate over semantics?

Pfffft, more so than you doofus. You cannot claim that the prevailing consensus on an issue is a conspiracy theory, not if you have an understanding of the term which you clearly lack.

Get a grip.

 

[Stripe]

There's no evidence of any widespread fraud.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Wot?



Not in a democracy.



That's not much of an argument.



If a group describes itself as white supremacist, I do not have any argument with it regarding their characterization.

However, that has nothing to do with what I said. Anyone who uses a phrase such as "white supremacy," "white privilege" or "systemic racism" to describe a democracy is a racist.

Of course it can be used in an unironic context in a democratic society. Pointing out that there are white supremacist outfits is fact. Describing a democratic society as white supremacist is ludicrous for sure but who exactly is teaching that? Acknowledging history where it comes to inequality, segregation and the like is not the same thing.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Um, yeah, smileys are more your speed Stripe. Otherwise, there isn't. Lots of shouting, promises of proof for massive fraud on a widespread scale etc and what's the result?

Audits revealing nothing of the sort. Court cases thrown out for lack of anything resembling evidence. Lawsuits for Powell, Giuliani & Lindell. Ridiculous briefings held outside landscaping firms and adult bookstores and a whole load of embarrassment for republicans, several of which have aired their public chagrin at the complete farce.

 

[Stripe]

Pointing out that there are white supremacist outfits is fact.

Pointing out facts that have nothing to do with what I said has no useful effect on the discussion.

Describing a democratic society as white supremacist is ludicrous for sure but who exactly is teaching that?

You haven't been paying attention, have you? Go on YouTube, type in "white supremacist democrat." Look for videos of democrats decrying "white supremacy" in the US.

Acknowledging history where it comes to inequality, segregation and the like is not the same thing.

They're talking about the US today.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Clearly, you have a mere passing affinity with it.



That's nice.

Now, have you got anything more convincing than a count of the number of people who agree with you and a debate over semantics?

Maybe this will help you a bit more where it comes to the issue of conspiracy theories:

1: The moon landing was real.

2: The moon landing was faked.

Now one of those is a conspiracy theory. Can you tell which one?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Pointing out facts that have nothing to do with what I said has no useful effect on the discussion.



You haven't been paying attention, have you? Go on YouTube, type in "white supremacist democrat." Look for videos of democrats decrying "white supremacy" in the US.



They're talking about the US today.

Yeh, I don't get my "news" from youtube vids thanks so I'll pass.

 

[Stripe]

Um, yeah, smileys are more your speed Stripe.

Otherwise, there isn't. Lots of shouting, promises of proof for massive fraud on a widespread scale etc and what's the result?

Wot?

Audits revealing nothing of the sort. Court cases thrown out for lack of anything resembling evidence. Lawsuits for Powell, Giuliani & Lindell. Ridiculous briefings held outside landscaping firms and adult bookstores and a whole load of embarrassment for republicans, several of which have aired their public embarrassment at the complete farce.

That's called an extremely selective analysis of accusations that you've made up.

My assertion is that only a moron believes that Joe Biden won last year's US election in legitimate fashion. You have implied a very narrow set of results that must have gone in favor of my assertion to deny it.

Try actually listening to what the other side says instead of trying to make their arguments for them.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Wot?



That's called an extremely selective analysis of accusations that you've made up.

My assertion is that only a moron believes that Joe Biden won last year's US election in legitimate fashion. You have implied a very narrow set of results that must have gone in favor of my assertion to deny it.

Try actually listening to what the other side says instead of trying to make their arguments for them.

So, you're a conspiracy theorist then. So, what have you got to support your notion that Biden won illegitimately? Because I'm merely pointing out the facts to you so it's pointless having a go at the messenger. All of these claims have come to nothing, that's fact. There's been no credible evidence to support the allegations from their conception to the present.

Otherwise present it.

In turn, anyone who bought into Trump's bleating isn't exactly over furnished in the ole neurological department...

 

[Stripe]

PREDICTION: Brain will start mocking people for talking about Ilhan Omar.

Yeh, I don't get my "news" from youtube vids

Luckily, I did not require you to do anything of the sort. I asked you to consider a video of a top democrat in office decrying the "white supremacy" or "systemic racism" of the US today.

For example:

I'll pass.

We know why.

 

[Arthur Brain]

PREDICTION: Brain will start mocking people for talking about Ilhan Omar.

Luckily, I did not require you to do anything of the sort. I asked you to consider a video of a top democrat in office decrying the "white supremacy" or "systemic racism" of the US today.

For example:

We know why.

Yeh, I'm not watching a forty odd minute YT video Stripe, there's only so many hours in the day and got stuff to do. Highlight the salient points and I don't go to YT for "news" because there's bette outlets for it thanks.

 

[Stripe]

So, you're a conspiracy theorist.

What have you got to support your notion that Biden won illegitimately?

Plenty.

Media companies and tech firms suppressed reporting that was damaging to former US president Joebiden.

Anyone who thinks that this did not happen is completely insane or utterly out of touch. Unfortunately, democracies overrepresent these groups.

I'm merely pointing out the facts to you so it's pointless having a go at the messenger.

Who has been calling people "goofballs" and "doofus," and describing them as "nuts"?

All of these claims have come to nothing, that's fact.

No, they haven't. There are court cases and investigations into the vote ongoing. You obviously do not pay any attention.

There's been no credible evidence to support the allegations from their conception to the present.

Of course there is.

In turn, anyone who bought into Trump's bleating isn't exactly over furnished in the ole neurological department...

 

[Stripe]

I'm not watching a forty odd minute YT video.

You don't have to.

You can put it on double speed and wait less than a minute.

But we know you don't care.

 

[Arthur Brain]

You don't have to.

You can put it on double speed and wait less than a minute.

But we know you don't care.

Or you could highlight the supposedly relevant points in it.

 

[Stripe]

Or you could highlight the supposedly relevant points in it.

You can put it on double speed and wait less than a minute.

But we know you don't care.

 

[Arthur Brain]

So, you're a conspiracy theorist.



Plenty.

Media companies and tech firms suppressed reporting that was damaging to former US president Joebiden.

Anyone who thinks that this did not happen is completely insane or utterly out of touch. Unfortunately, democracies overrepresent these groups.



Who has been calling people "goofballs" and "doofus," and describing them as "nuts"?

No, they haven't. There are court cases and investigations into the vote ongoing. You obviously do not pay any attention.



Of course there is.

No, I'm not. If were a conspiracy theorist on the issue then I'd be the one maintaining that there was widespread voter fraud. I even helped you out regarding the term with the moon landing analogy. Regardless of what you may happen to personally believe on the matter the conspiracy theory is the one whereby it was faked. The general consensus is that it was real. Now if you persist on the score then not only are you embarrassing yourself further, you're betraying a lack of supposed affinity with your native tongue.

Evidence for your second? Otherwise it can be dismissed as easily as Powell's 'kraken' along with Giuliani and Lindell's supposedly earth shattering symposium that promised the unveiling of irrefutable proof. Didn't happen did it? What did happen is all three of them facing lawsuits in excess of a billion dollars. Still, that's what happens when you baselessly accuse companies of fraud, tampering and the like in lieu of credible evidence to support.

Nah, the insane ones are those who are out of touch with actual events and reality and still clinging onto their pet little conspiracy theories because they'still can't get over the election results. This fraud nonsense has been a farce from the get go as reflected by not only reputable news sources but the republicans, sensible enough to distance themselves from it and call it out.

Oh, I've called you a goofball sure but then you earn it when you make dopey claims that those who acknowledge the prevailing consensus are conspiracy theorists. Still, you've been educated on the issue now so you shouldn't make that mistake in future.

Oh, I've been following it all from the get go and predictably, it's panned out and panning out as expected. Quite entertaining at times and in other ways just cringe worthy and rather sad. No wonder people like Cheney are sick and tired of it along with other republicans who acknowledge how embarrassing it all is.

 

[Arthur Brain]

But we know you don't care.

HIghlight the salient points. Or don't. Up to you.

 

[Stripe]

No, I'm not.

Of course you are.

If were a conspiracy theorist on the issue then I'd be the one maintaining that there was widespread voter fraud.

No. You deny that numerous powerful entities put a lot of effort into swaying the vote toward joebiden.

I even helped you out regarding the term with the moon landing analogy.

We know. You want to talk about nonsense issues and irrelevancies.

Evidence for your second?

What is my "second"?

Otherwise it can be dismissed as easily as Powell's 'kraken' along with Giuliani and Lindell's supposedly earth shattering symposium that promised the unveiling of irrefutable proof. Didn't happen did it? What did happen is all three of them facing lawsuits in excess of a billion dollars. Still, that's what happens when you baselessly accuse companies of fraud, tampering and the like in lieu of credible evidence to support.

Of what relevance are civil lawsuits? They haven't even reached court. The firms that issued them did so to hundreds of people, including some who were merely relatives of poll watchers.

The insane ones are those who are out of touch with actual events and reality and still clinging onto their pet little conspiracy theories because they still can't get over the election. This "no fraud" nonsense has been a farce from the get-go.

You've been educated on the issue now.

By you?

You know next to nothing about the situation in the US. You've listened to a few people on here and parrot their talking points. I spend hours every workday reading both sides. You won't even spend a few minutes on a video that you would have celebrated had you found it on your own in a different context.

HIghlight the salient points. Or don't. Up to you.

Click on the link and listen to the first few minutes of the video. Or don't. It's up to you. We know you don't care.