Pulling out of Hell:
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Letsargue
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I'm kind of new here, does this mean the back alley is unmoderated? If someone calls me a FOOL, can I throw it back in their face? (Although the Bible tells me not to)
That depends on how the crowd feels about you here. Call me what you like for giving you the Word of God / the Truth!! - Words in the Scriptures are not translated word for word. Sometimes it takes chapters to translate a single Word of God. ---- How will the future translate: - "Hey that's cool"!! - "How cool"? - "As cool as the beetles"!! - Let the fools transate it word for word as they do God's Word!!
Paul -- 032013
Letsargue
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Translate the “Next” following verse yourself!!
Acts 16:31 KJV --- 31- And they said, (( Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ )), and thou shalt be saved , and thy house”. -----///--- Translate that yourself, and leave the following OUT.
>>-- Acts 2:38 KJV – 38- “Then Peter said unto them, Repent, (( and be Baptized every one of you )) in the name of Jesus Christ ( for the remission of sins ), and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost”. ---&--- Acts 8:36-37 KJV – 36- “And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; ( what doth hinder me to be Baptized )? 37- And Philip said, (( If thou “Believest” with all thine heart, thou mayest )).” ------///--- YES! - Go ahead and leave the rest of the Truth OUT!! – God said that also!!
Paul – 032013
You didn't really give me the "word of TRUTH", as what you said about eternal souls contradicts what the Bible says.
I know what you mean by "That depends on how the crowd feels about you here." On CARM the supporters of ECT are allowed to say anything they want to about me, but I am not allowed to say anything in reply. In general, I've found that ECT supprters tend to be nasty, I hope that you are decent.
Okay.
οἱ δὲ εἶπαν· πίστευσον ἐπὶ τὸν κύριον Ἰησοῦν καὶ σωθήσῃ σὺ καὶ ὁ οἶκος σου.
and they said, "Believe in the lord Jesus and you will be saved, and your house."
I think I MAY get what you're saying, now. Only those who have been regenerated can understand that they WERE bound for hell. Regeneration enlightens one to that.
Letsargue
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Y-E-S!! - That's why the fools are called, "Blind".
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If you will, add this to the others:
Translate the following, and leave out the rest of God’s Word.
John 10:10 KJV – 10- “The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: ( I am come that they might have life ), ( and that they might have it more abundantly )”. -----//---
Add the following to that first verse, and see what you GET!! >>-- Revelation 22:14 KJV – 14- “Blessed are they that do his commandments, that ( they may have right to the Tree of Life, and may enter in through the Gates into the City ). ------///--- Does that sound like an abundant life to you; -- or what all fools are going to receive. – Or maybe your abundance NOW is what you have already received from your god!! --- Matthew 4:9 KJV -----///--- Enjoy what you GOT from your father!!
Paul – 032013
You never replied to this, so here it is again:
Really? Souls are eternal? I thought you were saying the "Whole Bible" agrees with you? The Bible says that the soul who sins shall die. This is in Ezekiel 18:4. How can the soul who sins die, if souls are eternal as you say? Jesus said to fear the one who can destroy both and soul in Gehenna. How can souls be destroyed in Gehenna if souls are eternal? Matthew 10:28
But according to Proverbs 1:7 fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Letsargue
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Read the Book, you can't be corrected!!
OOHH MY!! – There is a carnal soul, the flesh, or body of you, that can’t keep from sinning, and (( It WILL die ))!!! – Then there’s the Spiritual Soul - ( Christ in you ), a gift from God to replace that spiritual soul called the “Devil”, the old enter man. - Not a new fleshly man, but the Spiritual New Man called Christian / Christ like, or the “Light” of the world; - Jesus Christ’s Body; His Body, or Spiritual Soul!!
Adam never had an enter, or spiritual soul; Adam was only made a fleshly living soul. - Spiritual Souls from God never came along until Jesus died and became our Eternal Living Spiritual Soul. Jesus and Him Resurrected IS OUR ( LIFE ), or Enter Soul, he is our ( Inheritance ). ---- 1 Peter 3:4 KJV -----///---
Take it or leave it, I’m sure Christ couldn’t care less!! - I must inform Him of it anyhow: >>-- Luke 13:27 KJV – 27- But he shall say, I tell you, -- (( I know you not whence ye are )); depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity”. -----///--- OOPPPSSS – and you think you know Him without knowing the Truth; the Word of God in its Total!!
Paul – 032012
That is not what the Bible says, and it is also not what you said before. You said before that the soul was immortal, and that was supposed to convince me that I'm wrong. Now you say that there are 2 or 3 different souls in a person, and THAT'S supposed to convince me that I'm wrong. Where does the Bible say any of the things you are saying? When I show you what the Bible says, it is clear. You said the soul couldn't die, I showed you where the Bible says a soul will die. Now you are saying something else. Have you ever taken drugs that were not prescribed for you?
Letsargue
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All spiritual souls are immortal, only the carnal soul, the body, or the flesh that you USE to insult people with by your father – that’s your enter soul. - He, or you as spirit, is immortal. - Death awaits any carnal minded fool, and that death is the second death, which is the Lake of Fire. – Read the Book!! – Or don’t, and insult all you want to!! – I’ll just thank God for Hell!!
There are things that a true Christian can do with any insulting demon, or devil which is the devil’s angel. – Try Psalms 109, - the first part anyhow!! - Or just keep it up; it makes no difference to me!!
Paul – 032013
You keep claiming the soul is immortal, even though I showed you two passages in the Bible that prove that the soul is not immortal. Can you show me one passage in the Bible that says that the souls of the wicked are immortal? Souls who accept Jesus Christ receive eternal life from Him. They are resurrected to life by Him and live forever. The wicked go to their second death on Judgment Day.
Letsargue
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This is the judgment day!!! - Today started around AD-70. This is the Eternal Day, (( The Day of the Lord to God )), not to the lost, who are still in the world of the lost. Remember; "come out from among THEM"????? -- How else can we pull one out of the fire?? - Now tell me what fire if not hell!!! ---- Read about the rest of that in God's Word, and quit making up your own Scriptures to fit your own foolish doctrine. I'm telling you what GOD SAID!!! - However, I'm not worried that you care about the Truth!!
Paul -- 032113
I just go by what the Bible says. I'm not making anything up. Jesus said that just as the tares are burned up in the fire, that is how it will be on Judgment Day. The tares are completely consumed, the Greek word is katakausai and it means "burned up completely".
I would appreciate it if you wouldn't call the message of scripture "your own foolish doctrine". If you can point to a verse in the Bible that says "The wages of sin is NOT death, like I said in my previous letter", then go ahead and tell me the Chapter and Verse.
BTW, you really seem to enjoy insulting me. Is that the result of your doctrine, or it is due to your nature?
Letsargue
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It's the "Second DEATH", we are conserned with, not just the death of the flesh!!
Well, -- Christ did say that in it’s exact terms and sequence, and He also said: >>-- Matthew 13:30 KJV – 30- Let both grow together until the harvest: and ( in the time of harvest ) I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together (( “First the Tares ))”, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. ---///--- Then He says: >>-- Matthew 25:32- “Before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33- And he shall (( Set the Sheep on his right hand )), but the goats on the left. 34- ((( Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand ))), Come”. ---&--- ((( Then ))), >>-- Matthew 25:41 KJV – 41- Then shall he say also unto them on the (( Left Hand )), Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels”. -----//-- Which is it, the Tars / Goats first, or the Wheat / Sheep first!! – Christ says it both ways!!
Paul – 032113
We know from looking around that there are still evil people in the world. They "grow" together with the good until Judgment Day when Christ returns to judge the living and the (resurrected) dead. Those who have received eternal life from Him will live forever with Him. Those who have rejected Him will not receive eternal life from Him. They perish. They will die the second death.
Letsargue
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Yes, I know that. But in what sequence does that take place?? – You all take One Scripture and say that that is the way, when Christ says it both ways at times, and you over look the Truth in the total. - For instance: Did Judas hang himself, or did he fall headlong of the cliff, and write the Letter of Jude years later?? -- And, -- who was it that was missing on the Day of Pentecost; Judas or some one else?? – Read the whole Book!!!
Paul – 032113
Letsargue
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You show that you only take one verse at a time!!! - And you could not have read the ((( Whole ))) Bible. - And saying untruths is a Sin!! -- I have never met a person who has READ the Whole Bible streight through, (( Every Word of it streight through, not looking for something; just reading it through; much less the Old Testament 22 times, and the New Testament 57 times. - I can't read it anylonger without being destracted by the rest while reading!!
Paul -- 032113