Proof that Paul didn't preach a different gospel than Peter

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Peter attempted to prevent the Masters death-twice. The 12 had no idea the He would die, much less be raised=it was hid from them. After the resurrection, they initially did not believe it. And yet you claim that the 12 preached:

"Good news!!!!Christ is going to die for your/our sins...be buried....raised again....Believe this good news to be saved!!"


You claim Judas preached this.


"All of Jesus' Apostles taught the good news."-Silly Goose

You've yet to show where any of the 12 ever preached the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, after being asked over 50 times. Again, Show us, prior to the dbr, where the 12 ever preached:


"Good news!!!!Christ is going to die for your/our sins...be buried....raised again....Believe this good news to be saved!!"

Chapter, verse.


You won't, as it was hid from the 12. You deny that, and that Luke 18 KJV should be in the bible.


Fraud.

Jesus is the promise and good news.
 

john w

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Jesus is the promise and good news.

She can't produce any verse that shows the 12, prior to the death, burial, resurrection, preaching the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, which is the preaching of the death, burial, resurrection, and yet, the 12 did preach "the gospel of the kingdom," which means, if you are sane, that the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, is not equivalent to "the gospel/good news of the kingdom," picking apart her "just one piece of good news in the book...it all says the same thing..." satanic spam.

But not one person on TOL, that is saved, has ever claimed that this Silly goose fraud is sane, and that this verse, should not be in the book, as she does:


Luke 18 KJV

31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. 32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 33 and they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
 

john w

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Jesus is the promise and good news.

Show where any of the 12 ever preached the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, after being asked over 51 times. Again, show us, prior to the dbr, where the 12 ever preached:


"Good news!!!!Christ is going to die for your/our sins...be buried....raised again....Believe this good news to be saved!!"

Chapter, verse.


You won't, as it was hid from the 12. You deny that, and that Luke 18 KJV should be in the bible.


Fraud.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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You said, "There were "two" separate" messages being preached at that time;"

A) The Kingdom Message.
B) The Grace Message.


How can you get that the message of the kingdom of God being near, and then being inside us is not the grace message?

When we receive the Holy Spirit that is when we have the kingdom of God within us.

You're 'truly' limited!
 

Jerry Shugart

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Prophesied Grace, in contrast to..

Mystery Grace.

The "mystery" was in regard to this prophesied "grace" which was promised to the Israelites, and it concerned what the suffering of the Lord did signify:

"Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Spirit sent down from heaven" (1 Pet.1:10-1).​

Here Peter is saying that the prophets searched diligently in an effort to determine what the prophecies concerning Christ's suffering did signify but it was not revealed unto them. Even the Twelve Apostles, those closest to the Lord Jesus, did not realize that He was going to die (Lk.18:31-34) or be resurrected (Jn.20:9) until shortly before the Cross. They certainly did not know the "purpose" of the Cross, that believers are "justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Jn.3:24).

Roger M. Raymer writes:

"Concerning this salvation (cf. 'salvation' in vv. 5, 9) the prophets...searched intently and with the greatest care their own Spirit-guided writings. They longed to participate in this salvation and coming period of grace and tried to discover the appointed time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing. The pondered how the glorious Messiah could be involved in suffering" (Walvoord & Zuck, The Bible Knowledge Commentary; New Testament [ChariotVictor Publishing, 1983], p.842).​
 

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You said, "There were "two" separate" messages being preached at that time;"

A) The Kingdom Message.
B) The Grace Message.

How can you get that the message of the kingdom of God being near, and then being inside us is not the grace message?

When we receive the Holy Spirit that is when we have the kingdom of God within us.
"the kingdom of God is within you" refers to a GROUP and NOT an INDIVIDUAL.

This is actually one of the great strengths of the KJB (though I know some dislike it). The KJB always distinguishes the difference between SINGULAR and PLURAL. In modern English, this distinction is mostly lost.

When the KJB says "YOU" it is ALWAYS PLURAL and NOT SINGULAR. If it was singular it would say "THEE" or "THOU".
 
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tetelestai

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This is actually one of the great strengths of the KJB (though I know some dislike it). The KJB always distinguishes the difference between SINGULAR and PLURAL. In modern English, this distinction is mostly lost.

When the KJB says "YOU" it is ALWAYS PLURAL and NOT SINGULAR. If it was singular it would says "THEE" or "THOU".

Correct.

(Matt 26:64 KJV) Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Now if only you would apply your own rules to Matt 26:64 KJV, you would see that Jesus was telling the people He was talking to that they would see Him coming in the clouds of heaven.
 

God's Truth

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"the kingdom of God is within you" refers to a GROUP and NOT an INDIVIDUAL.
No. The kingdom of heaven is within those saved. We have the kingdom of heaven within us when we receive the Holy Spirit.

Romans 8:9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.
 

SaulToPaul 2

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No. The kingdom of heaven is within those saved. We have the kingdom of heaven within us when we receive the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

Who is inside of you, talking?
 

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Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

Who is inside of you, talking?

I have no idea what you are asking or why.
 

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Matthew 11:12 (KJV)

How did it suffer violence? It's inside you remember.

When a person comes to God through Jesus, they HAVE COME TO MOUNT ZION, to the heavenly Jerusalem. We actually come to heaven where God is.

Hebrews 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,

Hebrews 12:23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the judge of all men, to the spirits of righteous men made perfect,
 
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