ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
those are facts that he'll ignore or accuse you of bringing up as emotional arguments
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those are facts that he'll ignore or accuse you of bringing up as emotional arguments
Right. That's your personal moral interpretation. Why the insistence that others must follow your moral dictates?
C'mon guys...less emotion, more objectively based rebuttal!
You think this morality was conjured up by us? :mock:
No, this is GOD'S standard of morality. Do not murder.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Well, yes I do. But that's a subject for another time.
That seems to work for you. Others take a more secular approach.
There IS NO SECULAR APPROACH to morality.
You can't have morality if there is no standard higher than man. Any morality that a man comes up with on his own can only be less than himself. It can never be equal to or greater than himself.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
JR quotes facts about the developing child:
quip, for whatever strange reason I can't fathom, does exactly as i predicted and characterizes those facts as emotional arguments:
looks like we're done here quip - my interests in this were trying to understand how pro-choicers like you could rationalize the inconsistencies in their position
looks like the answer, at least with quip, lies in a realization that he's either a retard or dishonest
or both
either way, impervious to logic, reason and facts
and a waste of time
quip, for whatever strange reason I can't fathom, does exactly as i predicted and characterizes those facts as emotional arguments:
looks like we're done here quip - my interests in this were trying to understand how pro-choicers like you could rationalize the inconsistencies in their position
looks like the answer, at least with quip, lies in a realization that he's either a retard or dishonest
or both
either way, impervious to logic, reason and facts
and a waste of time
And?
Ad hom. Meh.
Well, tell me what good is envisioning an embryo sucking its thumb in the womb if not from a manipulative appeal to pity? ...replete with sordid thoughts of aborting the cute little thing!
It's a morality play; a pity induced entreaty.. NOT an honest open debate.
Don't delude yourself into thinking your moral standard is morally superior to others....that just begets and promulgates more self-serving immorality.
See how that works?
I literally just told you that it's not "my" or "our" morality. It's God's.
God says, not JudgeRightly or ok doser says.
Then stop speaking for Him.
I'm not. I'm just repeating what He has said.
“You shall not murder. - Exodus 20:13 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus20:13&version=NKJV
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
when we study fetal development in A&P, we note the behavioral development at each stage - indeed many of the stages are defined by behavioral development
and we do it without a manipulative appeal to pity
if you see manipulation and pity in JR's statement of fact, that's your skewed perspective, perhaps informed by your own guilty conscience
again, that speaks more to your guilt than to what JR posted
no, it was a statement of fact that you found objectionable for reasons you won't examine
i don't believe you're interested in an honest open debate quip, i think you're only interested in playing games
retarded games where you make claims that aren't supported by the facts in order to get a response
in other words quip, you're a troll
Why? Ya don't think He can handle it?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
his argument disintegrates when secular morality is applied, because there's no coherent secular morality argument that can be made to differentiate between killing an unborn child and killing a newborn child
we've seen him flail about throughout this thread attempting to make the secular morality argument and failing repeatedly
first it was "autonomy"
then it was "dependency"
in both cases it was demonstrated to him that they weren't able to reconcile the unborn/newborn dilemma
and his response in each case - false accusations, avoidance, deflection - every dishonest trick in the book when it comes to debate
Correct.
Yet, only one stage of development requires the womb. Hence, the debate over abortion.
You seem to be under the impression that your mere declaration is the end of the debate...I assure you it's only the start. So, where do you proceed? By posting emotion laden pics! :idunno:
If you have more...go with it.
Restjng upon declared facts are limiting...it's why you must employ guilt, pity, shame to your bag of rhetoric...it's vital to your moral imperative.
Yes, this is exactly the tactic. It seems I'm to concede the argument based upon the pitying, guilt ridden view (else I'm "skewed" and/or "guilty") you..et. al. are presenting. It's not a rational appeal.
No, not with the manipulative and dishonest. Games are all that's left.
Not agreeing with you makes me a troll?
If so...stop feeding the troll.