Pro-life and Democrat
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
too bad about quip - I would have liked to have seen a response to this exchange:
any pro-choicers out there care to address this?
Why would a child whose degree of dependence is unchanged from in utero to ex utero suddenly be entitled to the full protection of the law?
any pro-choicers out there care to address this?
Why would a child whose degree of dependence is unchanged from in utero to ex utero suddenly be entitled to the full protection of the law?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
....discarded as garbage:
worth contrasting the image of that pitiful dead child with this one:
in the case of the second image, the media ran with it for days, weeks, worldwide public outcry was enormous, political leaders were energized and forced to action
in the case of the first image?
not so much
the media is reluctant to admit the ongoing role they play in the deaths of those like the child in the first image, their complicity in promoting the view that the unborn child is unwanted garbage, their guilt in the murder of babies, in the sacrifice of innocents to the god of convenience
worth contrasting the image of that pitiful dead child with this one:
in the case of the second image, the media ran with it for days, weeks, worldwide public outcry was enormous, political leaders were energized and forced to action
in the case of the first image?
not so much
the media is reluctant to admit the ongoing role they play in the deaths of those like the child in the first image, their complicity in promoting the view that the unborn child is unwanted garbage, their guilt in the murder of babies, in the sacrifice of innocents to the god of convenience
Ahhhh...reduced to the oft appeal to emotion...true to form, it's all y'all really get any traction from.
Keep at it..it's powerful stuff!
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
quip decides to skip the posts I made that rationally and logically expose his arguments as the stuff of nonsense and his position as corrupt and evil and instead dishonestly criticize a post I made that relies on emotion:
looking for another ban quip?
looking for another ban quip?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
no appeal to emotion with this one - any time you feel up to answering it, i'll be waiting:
Why would a child whose degree of dependence is unchanged from in utero to ex utero suddenly be entitled to the full protection of the law?
Ask the law makers :idunno: it's above my pay grade.
That said: if embryos are persons by default why the superfluous legal protections for the unborn?
That's one of those responses strong emotional appeals seem to elicit.
Such is life being the wet-blanket at the ToL feel-good party!
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
| terminate verb ter·mi·nate | \ˈtər-mə-ˌnāt \ terminated; terminating Definition of terminate (Entry 1 of 2) intransitive verb 1 : to form an ending 2 : to come to an end in time 3 : to extend only to a limit (such as a point or line) especially : to reach a terminus transitive verb 1a : to bring to an end 2 : to serve as an ending, limit, or boundary of |
and so it prolongs her pregnancy? :freak:
wouldn't you agree that your position that a pregnancy is not ended by delivery is retarded?
Do you understand what fruition means?
lifeisgood
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That your mom was so emotionally attached to you while in utero that she refused to let someone pull you apart piece by piece as you were not an inconvenience to her. :idunno:
I hope you thank your mom every day for being emotionally attached to you in utero and more so ex utero.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
it's difficult to avoid touching on emotion with a topic like this - not impossible, but difficult
as you can see, many of my posts to quip have not relied on emotion, but on logic, facts and reasoning
and his argument fails when confronted with those
so it's a bit specious for him to whine when I do make a post that relies on emotion, a post that once again reveals the flaws in his argument
So, the emotive tactic today is that mommy is a selfless saint who - by such high virtue - has chosen to give of herself by giving birth to life?
That's some comfy, warm 'n fuzzy rebuttal....except in those instances when she's not!
Just a touch too naive and personally idyllic for any objective, practicle use.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
as a followup, I don't quite understand the position that an argument that uses emotion is necessarily invalid - certainly if it only relies on emotion it is vulnerable to attack from reason, logic and facts
but i think it's perfectly valid to use emotion to augment reason, logic and facts in a discussion like this
and I think it's worth noting that quip does it frequently
so for him to call me on it seems more than a little dishonest
but i think it's perfectly valid to use emotion to augment reason, logic and facts in a discussion like this
and I think it's worth noting that quip does it frequently
so for him to call me on it seems more than a little dishonest
Reasoning and logic are a rather ironic positions to assert from someone who - admittedly - refuses to debate the very subject whilst posting pics in it's stead.
Pro-life wears emotion like a worn out suit. It's their stock and trade. :idunno:
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
well, let's take a look at your record in this thread
the following are questions you've dodged/sidestepped/ignored or otherwise refused to answer:
too many variants of this to post:
looks like you're a dishonest hypocrite quip :idunno:
If you'd bother to discern between the physical facts concerning abortion and your moralizing interpretation...all would be revealed.
Physical facts? You mean like the fact that the baby in the womb is sucking his thumb at 12 weeks? Starts moving around from 9 weeks?
Facts like those?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
the physical fact is that an abortion is the deliberate ending of a human life
which is what, exactly?
all has been revealed quip - you've been outed as a dishonest hypocrite