You removed the scripture from my quote (Eph 4:14, Jn 8:44, Jn 1:1, Isa 30:12). It is what you do. :Shimei:
:yawn: Moral Licensing Eph 4:14
Pope Says Mary is the Mother of Forgiveness
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Heard the pope speak about the issues going on in the world today.
He said, "Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary"
I was taken in by these words of wisdom.
He said, "Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary Mary"
I was taken in by these words of wisdom.
:blabla: Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of death. Amen... Mt 6:7 NIV
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No Praying the Rosary
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She's just a surrogate.
Cruciform
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Misinterpreted and misapplied proof-texts such as those you cited are useless, and thus need not be included in any response to your posts.
:yawn: Moral licensing Eph 4:14
everready
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There is nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes 1:9)
TITLE: THE VIRGIN MARY IS POPULARLY AND AFFECTIONATELY CALLED THE "QUEEN OF HEAVEN".
Subtitle: THIS TITLE IS SHOCKING AND DEMONSTRATES THAT THE ORIGIN OF THE WORSHIP OF THE VIRGIN MARY IS PAGAN, NOT BIBLICAL
NEWS BRIEF: "Among all the women who have ever lived, the mother of Jesus Christ is the most celebrated, the most venerated... Among Roman Catholics, the Madonna is recognized not only as the Mother of God, but also, according to modern Popes, as the Queen of the Universe, Queen of Heaven, Seat of Wisdom, and even the Spouse of the Holy Spirit." (Time Magazine, "Handmaid or Feminist?", December 30, 1991, p. 62-66).
Most Roman Catholic adherents cheerfully refer to the Virgin Mary as the Queen of Heaven and understand this term to one of endearment, love, and adoration. Is this title a Biblical term or a Pagan title? Is God pleased with this title, or is He mightily displeased? Let us look in Scripture.
1. "Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger." [Jeremiah 7:17-18] In this section of Jeremiah, God is telling Israel why He is about to physically destroy them as a nation. God is acting much like a Prosecutor who is informing the accused as to the charges against them. Notice that God is very angry that these people are preparing to worship the Queen of Heaven. He is saying that this worship of the Queen of Heaven is "provoking" Him to anger!
2. "As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?"
[Jeremiah 44:16-17] Here, we see that the people are defiantly refusing to obey God, and are continuing to worship this Queen of Heaven.
http://www.cuttingedge.org/articles/rc109.htm
everready
glassjester
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Good thing that passage doesn't refer to Mary.
Good thing Catholics aren't worshiping Mary then.
And... good thing that passage doesn't even refer to Mary.
I don't think serpentdove has ever referenced a verse that is relevant :chuckle:
The plain and simple fact is that the Catholic Church likes to go too far with certain things, and venerating Mary is one of them. It's more 'Marianity' than 'Christianity'- contrition is like a one a month type deal, other than that it's Mary, Mary, Mary.
The plain and simple fact is that the Catholic Church likes to go too far with certain things, and venerating Mary is one of them. It's more 'Marianity' than 'Christianity'- contrition is like a one a month type deal, other than that it's Mary, Mary, Mary.
:yawn: Jn 8:37
everready
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Our Lady's Ecumenical Peace Plan
A consistent message given by the thousands of apparitions currently manifesting worldwide is one of peace, unity, and tolerance. At Medjugorje, the apparition of Mary has stated:
Dear children, today I invite you to peace. I have come here as the Queen of Peace and I desire to enrich you with my Motherly Peace.... I invite you to become carriers and witnesses of my peace to this unpeaceful world. Let peace rule in the whole world.[25]
In another message, Mary told the seers: "Tell this priest, tell everyone, that it is you who are divided on earth. The Muslims and the Orthodox, for the same reason as Catholics, are equal before my Son and I. You are all my children."[26] Mary's message of peace, unity, and tolerance is one that a distressed and perplexed world craves.
http://biblebelievers.com/tetlow/queenofall01.html
everready
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"Truth is hate to those who hate the truth." ~ Bob Enyart
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No Mary Worship
As a reminder Nihilo is number 10 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in the Religious Zealots (saved by works crowd) category. :burnlib:
:yawn: Ad hominem Eph 4:14
As a reminder Nihilo is number 10 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in the Religious Zealots (saved by works crowd) category. :burnlib:
A loser would definitely keep throwing around a term that they do not understand. Ergo, you are a loser.
As a reminder I am on "Satan, Inc." because I subscribe to what the Church has always believed and taught.
Yourself? No. Ergo, you are a loser.
Also as a reminder, here is what the Blessed Virgin said to the angel Gabriel, " Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. " Such faith!
You? Not so much.
Loser!
:yawn: Ad hominem Eph 4:14
As a reminder Nihilo is number 10 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in the Religious Zealots (saved by works crowd) category. :burnlib: