ECT Pauls teachings all came from the OT concerning Israel

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musterion

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And when He was demanded OF THE PHARISEES, when the Kingdom of God should come, He answered THEM and said, “The Kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo, here! or lo, there! for, behold, the Kingdom of God is within YOU.”
The Kingdom of God was within the unbelieving wicked Pharisees?

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john w

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Luke 18 KJV

31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. 32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 33 and they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.

They heard, they knew, but it seemed too unreal for them to grasp.

They were in denial for Christ had explained these things to His disciples many times.


LA


Made up-it was hid from them-they did not know it, you habitual liar:

And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.


"For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is
delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after thathe is killed, he shall rise the third day. But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him." Mark 9:31 KJV
 

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Paul was not the first to know.

Christ explained all of the gospel to His disciples--

Luk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luk 24:26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Act 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
Act 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

Madists falsely claim the Body of Christ was established first through Paul, but the Spirit was given first at Pentecost--

Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

LA


She spams this Luke 24 on every thread, and is shown, that this was after the dbr occurred. They did not know, prior to its occurrence:

"For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is
delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after thathe is killed, he shall rise the third day. But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him." Mark 9:31 KJV


"Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken." Luke 18:31-34 KJV


Read it:"Then..."

"Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day...." Luke 24:45 KJV


"For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead." John 20:9 KJV

Comment: Notice they did not know it or understand it prior to His
death! They were not preaching 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV.

LALiar.
 

john w

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Indeed . . .

Abel knew about the necessity of the promised death of the Seed, when he offered substitutional blood to God.

Seth knew the Gospel of promise and called upon the name of God in faith.

Noah received the grace of God for his obedience and understanding that God would save Him from judgment due to covenant promises.

Job, who predated even Abraham, believed in the resurrection of the promised Savior and testified to this in Job 19:25-29

These MADist dismiss the entirety of the Scriptures, in order to exercise a gnostic notion that they have received some secret knowledge that no one else in the world ever received until Paul.

It is false teaching, and it takes great patience to continually put up with their efforts to denigrate the Truth of Jesus Christ . . but those of us who know better, must.

For they interfere with the Gospel message and lead others astray with their nonsense . . .

You missed it-the 12 were clueless(like you), re the impending dbr:

"Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken." Luke 18:31-34 KJV

"Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day...." Luke 24:45 KJV

Read it:"Then"-after the fact-not before.

"For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead." John 20:9 KJV


Nag: I deny it, cuz my "church" SOF did not say anything about this!!!!!!!!Stop it.


Clueless biblically, and would not know the difference between the book of Job, and the rock group Job.
 

john w

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I believe it's Madist's, not other ones, who cannot expound upon the details of the kingdom.

Where did Jesus say it was?

Hint:

Luke 17:20
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Rabbit trail....create a moving target.


Show us where the 12, including Judas, preached, prior to the dbr, while they were preaching "the gospel of the kingdom,"for almost 3 years:

"The master is going to die for our sins, be buried, and raised from the dead. Believe this good news to be justified."


Watch the punt, emotional response, change the subject, smoke a joint.


Chapter, verse. You cannot. You won't.
 

musterion

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"Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken." Luke 18:31-34 KJV

They didn't know.

"THEN opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day...." Luke 24:45 KJV

Then they were made to know, and they knew.

"For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead." John 20:9 KJV

That nails it down tight. Cannot be argued against nor refuted.

Anyone, after reading that, who still claims they preached the DBR the whole time is of the Devil.
 

john w

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The Kingdom of God was within the unbelieving wicked Pharisees?

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Yes, musty, that is slick of Jeff...real slick...His father the devil taught him to delete verse 20:

Luke 17

20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Sure, Jeff...the kingdom of God was within the hearts of the Pharisees.....as they smoked pot?
 

Eagles Wings

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Nag: Judas preached 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV.


Another satanic assertion.
How then do you interpret Acts 1:16-17?

Certainly God knew Judas and allowed him to serve for a time as an apostle.

Judas appeared to be very close to the Savior, and yet his heart was full of evil. A reminder and warning for all of us.
 

john w

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They didn't know.



Then they were made to know, and they knew.



That nails it down tight. Cannot be argued against nor refuted.

Anyone, after reading that, who still claims they preached the DBR the whole time is of the Devil.

Well done..

Isaiah 28:13 KJV But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
 

john w

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He said neither shall they say.

So I'll ask you again, where did he say it was?

Put the joint down, and pay attention:

Luke 17 KJV

20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Jeff: this "you" in verse 21 is the Pharisees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sssssssssssssssssssss......
 

musterion

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Put the joint down, and pay attention:

Luke 17 KJV

20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Jeff: this "you" in verse 21 is the Pharisees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sssssssssssssssssssss......

He's playing stupid because he can't answer it.
 

1Mind1Spirit

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Well done..

Isaiah 28:13 KJV But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Why not underline precept?
 

1Mind1Spirit

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Put the joint down, and pay attention:

Luke 17 KJV

20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Jeff: this "you" in verse 21 is the Pharisees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sssssssssssssssssssss......

The kingdom of God would be in the ones proclaiming it.

After the resurrection.

He's telling them when and where.
 
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