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WatchmanOnTheWall

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Animals have their own spirit, it provides intellect.


Having a soul has nothing to do with intelligence. Intelligence is a result of brain function and is determined largely by genetics but intelligence has nothing to do with spirituality or soul.

There is no evidence in the Bible that animals have a spiritual nature or that they possess a soul.

Man has dominion over all animals. We are the pinnacle of God's creation and are made up of body, soul and spirit. As far as we know animals were never given a spirit or a soul:

Genesis 2:7
Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

This never happened to any animal but our spirit returns to God after death while the body returns to the Earth to await its resurrection:

Ecclesiastes 12:7
and the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
 

jamie

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As far as we know animals were never given a spirit or a soul:

"For what happens to the sons of men also happens to animals, one thing befalls them, as one dies so dies the other. Surely, they all have one breath, man has no advantage over animals for all is vanity. All go to one place, all are from the dust and all return to dust. Who knows the spirit of the sons of men, which goes upward and the spirit of the animal, which goes down to the earth?" (Ecclesiastes 12:19-21)

You are welcome to believe scripture or you can stick with your own ideas.
 

jamie

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What is the purpose of the human spirit?

"For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God." (1 Corinthians 2:11)
 

Jacob

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If you are not dumb or playing dumb then you are disingenuous because everyone can see the sighting of the first sliver of light on the moon was seen in Jerusalem on the evening of the 18th of January:

http://whenisthenewmoon.com/2018/01/

http://www.renewedmoon.com/wall-cale...d=2017-2018-11

http://www.joybysurprise.com/new-moon-sighted-.html

http://weareisrael.org/hebrew-calend...7-18/new-moon/

http://www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?YM=Y2017M11

https://guidetothebible.files.wordpr...r5988_2018.pdf

This was Rosh Chodesh and began the 11th month! Thousands of people saw it and you can not deny this fact. Therefore today is the 27th not the 28th. You only believe it is the 28th because the Hillel calendar you follow uses the 19 year repeating mathematical cycle that only approximates the real new moon sightings: https://www.hebcal.com/converter/

Everyone can see this except you. Just ignoring all this makes you ignorant and therefore dumb but if you have seen this but are choosing to still ignore it that makes you disingenuous and a liar.

You have to be either dumb or a liar there is no other explanation.

Shalom.

Today is Revi'i, 11-29.

No.

I do not observe January. You keep repeating it.

Shalom.

Jacob
 

Jacob

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I don't understand what you are saying. Why?

Shalom.

Today is Revi'i, 11-29.

About what?

It is rude to tell someone that if they are not playing dumb then they are dumb. It is rude to tell someone that they are dumb. I am not dumb, even by the actual real definition and not when it is used as an insult.

Shalom.

Jacob
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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Read what it says:

Ecclesiastes 3:21
Who knows if the human spirit rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?

Solomon didn't know, he was asking a question.
 

patrick jane

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Shalom.

Today is Revi'i, 11-29.

About what?

It is rude to tell someone that if they are not playing dumb then they are dumb. It is rude to tell someone that they are dumb. I am not dumb, even by the actual real definition and not when it is used as an insult.

Shalom.

Jacob
I don't know what you are saying.
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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Shalom.

Today is Revi'i, 11-29.

No.

I do not observe January. You keep repeating it.

Shalom.

Jacob

You know that has nothing to do with it, otherwise you are dumb. Today is 11-28 because everyone can see the sighting of the first sliver of light on the moon was seen in Jerusalem on the evening of the 18th of January. Here is the proof:

http://whenisthenewmoon.com/2018/01/

http://www.renewedmoon.com/wall-cale...d=2017-2018-11

http://www.joybysurprise.com/new-moon-sighted-.html

http://weareisrael.org/hebrew-calend...7-18/new-moon/

http://www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?YM=Y2017M11

https://guidetothebible.files.wordpr...r5988_2018.pdf

This was Rosh Chodesh and began the 11th month! Thousands of people saw it and you can not deny this fact unless you lie or are too dumb to understand it. Therefore today is the 28th not the 29th. You only believe it is the 29th because the Hillel calendar you follow uses the 19 year repeating mathematical cycle that only approximates the real new moon sightings: https://www.hebcal.com/converter/

Everyone can see this except you. Just ignoring all this makes you ignorant and therefore dumb but if you have seen this but are choosing to still ignore it that makes you disingenuous and a liar.

You have to be either dumb or a liar there is no other explanation.

(Perhaps Patrick or someone can take a look and count the days for themselves:

January:
18-19=Day1 (new moon day)
19-20=2
20-21=3
21-22=4
22-23=5
23-24=6
24-25=7
25-26=8
26-27=9
27-28=10
28-29=11
29-30=12
30-31=13
31-1=14
1-2=15
2-3=16
3-4=17
4-5=18
5-6=19
6-7=20
7-8=21
8-9=22
9-10=23
10-11=24
11-12=25
12-13=26
13-14=27
14-15=28
 

Jacob

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You know that has nothing to do with it, otherwise you are dumb. Today is 11-28 because everyone can see the sighting of the first sliver of light on the moon was seen in Jerusalem on the evening of the 18th of January. Here is the proof:

http://whenisthenewmoon.com/2018/01/

http://www.renewedmoon.com/wall-cale...d=2017-2018-11

http://www.joybysurprise.com/new-moon-sighted-.html

http://weareisrael.org/hebrew-calend...7-18/new-moon/

http://www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?YM=Y2017M11

https://guidetothebible.files.wordpr...r5988_2018.pdf

This was Rosh Chodesh and began the 11th month! Thousands of people saw it and you can not deny this fact unless you lie or are too dumb to understand it. Therefore today is the 28th not the 29th. You only believe it is the 29th because the Hillel calendar you follow uses the 19 year repeating mathematical cycle that only approximates the real new moon sightings: https://www.hebcal.com/converter/

Everyone can see this except you. Just ignoring all this makes you ignorant and therefore dumb but if you have seen this but are choosing to still ignore it that makes you disingenuous and a liar.

You have to be either dumb or a liar there is no other explanation.

(Perhaps Patrick or someone can take a look and count the days for themselves:

January:
18-19=Day1 (new moon day)
19-20=2
20-21=3
21-22=4
22-23=5
23-24=6
24-25=7
25-26=8
26-27=9
27-28=10
28-29=11
29-30=12
30-31=13
31-1=14
1-2=15
2-3=16
3-4=17
4-5=18
5-6=19
6-7=20
7-8=21
8-9=22
9-10=23
10-11=24
11-12=25
12-13=26
13-14=27
14-15=28

What Hillel calendar? You said January again.
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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What Hillel calendar? You said January again.

Don't you even know your own calendar?? Hillel was the Rabbi who invented your Jewish calendar in 359 AD. January is on the Gregorian calendar and is used by most of the world. Don't you know anything?
 

Jacob

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Don't you even know your own calendar?? Hillel was the Rabbi who invented your Jewish calendar in 359 AD. January is on the Gregorian calendar and is used by most of the world. Don't you know anything?

I do not observe the American Calendar or the Roman Calendar.

Rosh Chodesh is based in the Torah.

Shalom.

Jacob
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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I do not observe the American Calendar or the Roman Calendar.

Rosh Chodesh is based in the Torah.

Shalom.

Jacob

You really are dumb. The calendar you are using is the Hillel calendar that is based on the Torah calendar. That is why you are a day ahead of the Torah calendar created by God. You really don't understand anything. When you say "I do not understand." - that is so true, you really have no clue.
 

Jacob

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You really are dumb. The calendar you are using is the Hillel calendar that is based on the Torah calendar. That is why you are a day ahead of the Torah calendar created by God. You really don't understand anything. When you say "I do not understand." - that is so true, you really have no clue.

I do not know where you are getting your information. I am not dumb.

Rosh Chodesh can be read about in the Torah. It is based on the observation of the moon, the first sliver or slither of light. This occurs after the astronomical new moon where the moon is completely black or dark.

The Babylonian Calendar names were adopted in and or following the Babylonian Captivity, which you can read about in the TaNaK. Then there is Matthew through Revelation. Hillel, from what you tell me of the date, was long after this.

Since Rosh Chodesh is by observation and not by calculation, I do not know what you are saying or telling me. I observe Rosh Chodesh, but according to Torah not the Babylonian Month Names.

Shalom.

Jacob
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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I do not know where you are getting your information. I am not dumb.
Yes you are.
Rosh Chodesh can be read about in the Torah. It is based on the observation of the moon, the first sliver or slither of light. This occurs after the astronomical new moon where the moon is completely black or dark.

The sighting of the first sliver of light on the moon was seen in Jerusalem on the evening of the 18th of January. Here is the proof:

http://whenisthenewmoon.com/2018/01/

http://www.renewedmoon.com/wall-cale...d=2017-2018-11

http://www.joybysurprise.com/new-moon-sighted-.html

http://weareisrael.org/hebrew-calend...7-18/new-moon/

http://www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?YM=Y2017M11

https://guidetothebible.files.wordpr...r5988_2018.pdf

This was Rosh Chodesh and began the 11th month! Thousands of people saw it and you can not deny this fact unless you lie or are too dumb to understand it. Therefore today is the 28th not the 29th.

You only believe it is the 29th because the Hillel calendar you follow uses the 19 year repeating mathematical cycle that only approximates the real new moon sightings: https://www.hebcal.com/converter/

Everyone can see this except you. Just ignoring all this makes you ignorant and therefore dumb but if you have seen this but are choosing to still ignore it that makes you disingenuous and a liar.

Count the days for yourself (if you can?):

January:
18-19=Day1 (new moon day)
19-20=2
20-21=3
21-22=4
22-23=5
23-24=6
24-25=7
25-26=8
26-27=9
27-28=10
28-29=11
29-30=12
30-31=13
31-1=14
1-2=15
2-3=16
3-4=17
4-5=18
5-6=19
6-7=20
7-8=21
8-9=22
9-10=23
10-11=24
11-12=25
12-13=26
13-14=27
14-15=28


The Babylonian Calendar names were adopted in and or following the Babylonian Captivity, which you can read about in the TaNaK. Then there is Matthew through Revelation.
That has nothing to do with it
Hillel, from what you tell me of the date, was long after this.
Correct! And that is the calendar you are using and is why it is not God's Calendar of the Torah!
Since Rosh Chodesh is by observation and not by calculation, I do not know what you are saying or telling me. I observe Rosh Chodesh, but according to Torah not the Babylonian Month Names.

Shalom.

Jacob

No you have started your month from the day after Rosh Chodesh on the 19th of January.

You are ignoring all of this which makes you ignorant.

Peace.
 

Jacob

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Yes you are.

The sighting of the first sliver of light on the moon was seen in Jerusalem on the evening of the 18th of January. Here is the proof:

http://whenisthenewmoon.com/2018/01/

http://www.renewedmoon.com/wall-cale...d=2017-2018-11

http://www.joybysurprise.com/new-moon-sighted-.html

http://weareisrael.org/hebrew-calend...7-18/new-moon/

http://www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?YM=Y2017M11

https://guidetothebible.files.wordpr...r5988_2018.pdf

This was Rosh Chodesh and began the 11th month! Thousands of people saw it and you can not deny this fact unless you lie or are too dumb to understand it. Therefore today is the 28th not the 29th.

You only believe it is the 29th because the Hillel calendar you follow uses the 19 year repeating mathematical cycle that only approximates the real new moon sightings: https://www.hebcal.com/converter/

Everyone can see this except you. Just ignoring all this makes you ignorant and therefore dumb but if you have seen this but are choosing to still ignore it that makes you disingenuous and a liar.

Count the days for yourself (if you can?):

January:
18-19=Day1 (new moon day)
19-20=2
20-21=3
21-22=4
22-23=5
23-24=6
24-25=7
25-26=8
26-27=9
27-28=10
28-29=11
29-30=12
30-31=13
31-1=14
1-2=15
2-3=16
3-4=17
4-5=18
5-6=19
6-7=20
7-8=21
8-9=22
9-10=23
10-11=24
11-12=25
12-13=26
13-14=27
14-15=28


That has nothing to do with itCorrect! And that is the calendar you are using and is why it is not God's Calendar of the Torah!

No you have started your month from the day after Rosh Chodesh on the 19th of January.

You are ignoring all of this which makes you ignorant.

Peace.

I am not ignoring any of what you are saying. I am not accepting it because it is not Jewish. I am a Jew, of Israel, of the tribe of Levi. I do not observe your calendar.

You need to look up the definition of dumb. The question is if someone who is dumb can be healed and or if they are considered to be disabled. Calling someone dumb is an insult. I cannot agree with you when you insult me. I do not think that you would agree with me if I were to insult you.

Rosh Chodesh begins at or following sundown. It is two days. The second day is the first day of the twelfth month. I will not be online during Rosh Chodesh.

Shalom.

Jacob
 

WatchmanOnTheWall

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I am not ignoring any of what you are saying. I am not accepting it because it is not Jewish. I am a Jew, of Israel, of the tribe of Levi. I do not observe your calendar.

You need to look up the definition of dumb. The question is if someone who is dumb can be healed and or if they are considered to be disabled. Calling someone dumb is an insult. I cannot agree with you when you insult me. I do not think that you would agree with me if I were to insult you.

Rosh Chodesh begins at or following sundown. It is two days. The second day is the first day of the twelfth month. I will not be online during Rosh Chodesh.

Shalom.

Jacob

Okay, so please provide proof the first sliver of light on the moon was seen in Jerusalem on the evening of the 19th of January. You can't because there is none and you're too thick to realise that or look into it. You are dumb!!!

Peace.
 
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