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It is not meshak says. It is Jesus who says it.
He says to do, do, do.
No, meshak, Jesus says BELIEVE, BELIEVE, BELIEVE what I, Jesus the Christ AM and did.
It is not meshak says. It is Jesus who says it.
He says to do, do, do.
You just proved that you twist and lie for I said it was the devil's works to go against obeying Jesus and to accuse the true worshipers, but you twisted what I said.
We cannot jump to step #2 (do good works) if step #1 (Jesus saving us) has not happened yet.
I agree 100%, but what I keep hearing is we can delete step 2. I don't believe we can.
A Person Christ died for is saved while in a state of dead works and unbelief, while they are enemies Rom 5:10 !
Absolutely not deleting step #2.
However, if step #1 is not accomplished first, which is God saving us, step #2 doesn't even come into play.
Many want to jump to step #2 thinking they have accomplished step #1 when only God can accomplish step #1.
No, meshak, Jesus says BELIEVE, BELIEVE, BELIEVE what I, Jesus the Christ AM and did.
I have the same thread except slightly changed the title.
Old title was offensive to the majority.
blessings.
Greetings Meshak,
I agree obedience is certainly critical to each believer, Disciple. Obediance fosters greater intimacy. So does praise to God. Heartfelt praise and conversing, " Prayer" .
But I want to ask you this, if you obey say 75% of what you know as written in Scripture, and I obey only 50 % , ( because I avoid the other 25 %) , is your greater obedience to God, going to be used a " measure tool" against my disobedience? And do you feel "Honestly" that you may be received by God? And I will not ?
I have twisted nothing.
You CANNOT obey and trust every word of God.
You do NOT do God's will to be saved, for the Will of God for you to be saved is that you BELIEVE His Son so His Son can SAVE YOU.
You go against that, providing your own way of salvation, and that is what the devil's work is to make you provide your own way of salvation instead of accepting God's only acceptable way of Salvation.
I agree 100%, but what I keep hearing is we can delete step 2. I don't believe we can.
I agree 100%, but what I keep hearing is we can delete step 2. I don't believe we can.
I don't think you know to what you are giving a thumbs up.:up:
Greetings Meshak,
I agree obedience is certainly critical to each believer, Disciple. Obediance fosters greater intimacy. So does praise to God. Heartfelt praise and conversing, " Prayer" .
But I want to ask you this, if you obey say 75% of what you know as written in Scripture, and I obey only 50 % , ( because I avoid the other 25 %) , is your greater obedience to God, going to be used a " measure tool" against my disobedience? And do you feel "Honestly" that you may be received by God? And I will not ?
I am using "Obedience" inclusive with the commands pertaining to our behavior, praise, worship, prayer, and Holy works, avoiding sin, and in full sumbmission to Holy Spirit at all times.
Sincerely, Rougueone
Can you?You need to obey all of Jesus' teachings.
YOU are doing works before you are saved; whether works of sin or works of obedience.
Before you are saved you are either doing EVIL WORKS OF SIN, or you are obeying Jesus to be saved.
Romans 6:16 PAUL says, "...whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness..."
Of course, I can.
We have to it is easy it is life.
YOU are doing works before you are saved; whether works of sin or works of obedience.
Before you are saved you are either doing EVIL WORKS OF SIN, or you are obeying Jesus to be saved.
Romans 6:16 PAUL says, "...whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness..."
You need to obey all of Jesus' teachings.