Obama's Gay Lifestyle Before He Became President

Rusha

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Oh, and once again. You're the one who's perfectly okay with a thrice married philanderer remaining in office who should face no penalty despite advocating such "sexual misconduct" should be a crime so that's just gonna rebound on you again Tam. Why you persist with that line is pretty much as bizarre as your "Obama is gay" shtick.

:AMR:

Obama, insofar as moral character, is up there with Bush, Carter and Reagan. I don't have to agree with all of their policies to appreciate the fact that they respected women and were devout husbands and fathers. Insofar as the *gay label*, it wouldn't deter me from voting for someone as long as they were loyal to their spouse, law abiding, non-violent and put America first.
 

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Obama, insofar as moral character, is up there with Bush, Carter and Reagan. I don't have to agree with all of their policies to appreciate the fact that they respected women and were devout husbands and fathers. Insofar as the *gay label*, it wouldn't deter me from voting for someone as long as they were loyal to their spouse, law abiding, non-violent and put America first.

This is true. A person who is faithful and not a serial adulterer is certainly less of an affront to God than one who repeatedly violates his wedding vows.
 

Rusha

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This is true. A person who is faithful and not a serial adulterer is certainly less of an affront to God than one who repeatedly violates his wedding vows.

It's a matter of character, trust and honesty. A person's spouse (and children) *should be* those who I would expect to be on the receiving end of loyalty and protection, above all others. IF one thinks so little of their family, why would expect them to put the best interest of the country above their own?
 

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Actually, Alex Jones once admitted he was wrong. He admitted the "Hillary Clinton's pedophile dungeon under a pizzaria" story was false. If you go back and check, you'll find that GO never admitted he was wrong about anything like that.
I have never posted about "Hillary Clinton's pedophile dungeon under a pizzaria".
 

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> The New York Post has accepted a full-page ad declaring Barack Obama’s real biological father is the late Communist Party activist Frank Marshall Davis, not the Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama."
While I don't like Obama, I will have to agree with The Barbarian and say this is fake. Michelle was born female. This type of fakery only makes conservatives look bad.
 

Arthur Brain

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Obama, insofar as moral character, is up there with Bush, Carter and Reagan. I don't have to agree with all of their policies to appreciate the fact that they respected women and were devout husbands and fathers. Insofar as the *gay label*, it wouldn't deter me from voting for someone as long as they were loyal to their spouse, law abiding, non-violent and put America first.

Yep, wouldn't deter me either, but then as you point out, Obama has been a happily married family man with children for years with not even a scent of scandal or infidelity. These clowns who try to spread muck about him being gay are either thick or just so desperate for someone they despise to be homosexual. Sad in every sense of the word...
 

Arthur Brain

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It's not 'less of an affront to God' to support something GOD says is an abomination to Him.
You don't get to change what it is to GOD, an abomination.

Well, it wouldn't apply to Obama anyway and if adultery is also such an affront, then it didn't stop you casting a vote for the current guy in office did it? Can't have it both ways.
 

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Well, it wouldn't apply to Obama anyway and if adultery is also such an affront, then it didn't stop you casting a vote for the current guy in office did it? Can't have it both ways.
Tell us, AB, what exactly would you like to be done about adulterers (not just a cherry-picked adulterer, but all of them)?
What other jobs, along with being President as one of those jobs, would you exclude adulterers from having?
Give us a list.
 

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Tell us, AB, what exactly would you like to be done about adulterers (not just a cherry-picked adulterer, but all of them)?
What other jobs, along with being President as one of those jobs, would you exclude adulterers from having?
Give us a list.

I removed him from the thread. Let's steer the discussion in a different direction.
 

Tambora

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Well, it wouldn't apply to Obama anyway
Rusha said being a homo would not prevent her from casting a vote.
Is that an affront to GOD, AB?

Can't have it both ways.
Remember Bill Clinton, an adulterer Rusha also voted for?
Got any words for her and the type of people she would vote for?

How is that "both ways" working out for y'alls side?
 

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I haven't read this entire thread so I don't know if anyone has posted this or not. If they have, my apologies.



While we know Rivers did jokes about Michelle being a tranny in her shows she obviously isn't joking in this exchange.
 

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When Barack Obama was a 19-year-old student at Occidental College, he published two poems in the Spring 1982 issue of Occidental’s literary magazine, Feast. One is the cringe-worthy “Underground” about “apes that eat figs.” The other poem, “Pop,” is much more interesting, biographical, and disturbing.


Pop”

Sitting in his seat, a seat broad and broken
In, sprinkled with ashes,
Pop switches channels, takes another
Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks

What to do with me, a green young man
Who fails to consider the
Flim and flam of the world, since
Things have been easy for me;

I stare hard at his face, a stare
That deflects off his brow;
I’m sure he’s unaware of his
Dark, watery eyes, that
Glance in different directions,
And his slow, unwelcome twitches,
Fail to pass.

I listen, nod,
Listen, open, till I cling to his pale,
Beige T-shirt, yelling,
Yelling in his ears, that hang
With heavy lobes, but he’s still telling
His joke, so I ask why
He’s so unhappy, to which he replies…
But I don’t care anymore, cause

He took too damn long, and from
Under my seat, I pull out the
Mirror I’ve been saving; I’m laughing,
Laughing loud, the blood rushing from his face
To mine, as he grows small,
A spot in my brain, something
That may be squeezed out, like a

Watermelon seed between
Two fingers.
Pop takes another shot, neat,
Points out the same amber
Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and
Makes me smell his smell, coming
From me; he switches channels, recites an old poem

He wrote before his mother died,
Stands, shouts, and asks
For a hug, as I shrink, my
Arms barely reaching around
His thick, oily neck, and his broad back; ‘cause
I see my face, framed within
Pop’s black-framed glasses
And know he’s laughing too.

The poem reads autobiographical — about a young Obama’s relationship with a much older man whom he calls Pop. In his article for WND on March 7, 2012, Dr. Jack Cashill singles out this passage from the poem:

“Pop takes another shot, neat/ Points out the same amber/ Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine, and/ Makes me smell his smell, coming/ From me;”


Cashill writes that the most innocent explanation for the “amber stain” on the shorts of Pop and young Obama or “his smell, coming/ From me” is that Pop got the teenaged Obama drunk, and they both spilled whiskey (Seagrams) on themselves. But that interpretation does not explain why the spill is specifically on their shorts and not on their shirts or how Pop’s smell is also on (“from”) Obama.

A marriage and family therapist who blogs under the tag “Neo-Neocon” senses a darker relationship. She writes:

“The lines that begin ‘points out the same amber stain…Makes me smell his smell, coming/
From me’ may be describing outright sexual abuse. But perhaps not; we don’t know, and we’ll never know. But there is no question that the poem is describing a boundary violation on several levels: this child feels invaded—perhaps even taken over—by this man, and is fighting against that sensation.

[…] The poem describes a boundary violation that is both physical and mental.The physical is obvious: he is forced to hug the man who repels him, and as he does so he feels himself shrinking. But the violation is mental, too; earlier in the poem, Obama has described “Pop” as a person who has actually gotten into his brain, and whom he wishes to eliminate from it:

as he grows small,

A spot in my brain, something

That may be squeezed out, like a 

Watermelon seed between

Two fingers.

This mental and emotional usurpation of the young Obama is echoed in the last image of the poem, in which the boy sees his own tiny image framed in ‘Pop’s’ eyeglasses.
 The poem describes a struggle against an attempt at identity takeover, a rejection of being reduced to a reflection in the eyes of the stronger, older, more experienced mentor, who has tried to make Obama over in his own image:

I see my face, framed within
Pop’s black-framed glasses
…

The sight is chilling to Obama, who is trying to break free. One wonders if he ever fully succeeded.”

So who was Pop?
There were two older men in teen Obama’s life:

1. His maternal grandfather, Stanley Armour Dunham, with whom Obama had lived from age 10 to 18 in Honolulu. When Obama was ten years old, his mom, Stanley Ann Dunham, had sent him back to Hawaii to live with her parents while she remained in Indonesia.

2. Frank Marshall Davis, a black long-time friend of Stanley Armour Dunham, whom Dunham had introduced to young Obama to be the latter’s African-American mentor. Davis was a member of the American Communist Party, a writer of poetry and books, including the pornographic novel, Sex Rebel: Black, using the pseudonym “Bob Greene.”

Cashill states that there is no doubt Davis wrote Sex Rebel because Davis admitted as much in his memoir, Livin’ the Blues: “I could not then truthfully deny that this book, which came out in 1968 as a Greenleaf Classic, was mine.”

Because of This During the presidential campaign season in 2008, I read Sex Rebel, which is out of print, by borrowing the book from the library of the University of California, Berkeley. I therefore can testify from having read the book that Sex Rebel is an account of the unorthodox sexual exploits of a black man “Bob Greene”.

Those sexual exploits included marrying a white woman (just as Davis himself did, which was uncommon in the 1960s); “swinging” or wife-swapping with other couples; picking up prospective couples in public parks; sexual orgies; voyeurism; exhibitionism; bisexualism (Greene wrote that “under certain circumstances I am bisexual”); and the seduction by “Greene” and his white wife of a 13-year-old girl named Anne.

(It is the pedophilia that has prompted increasing speculation on the net that “Anne” was actually Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama’s mother; and that Frank Marshall Davis had sired Obama. That’s the reason why Obama conceals his birth certificate. This is the subject of a documentary movie that will come out this summer. For more information, go here.)

Joel Gilbert, the maker of the documentary “Dreams From My Real Father,” has uncovered handwritten letters by Davis to Margaret Burroughs, the well-known African-American artist, in which Davis refers to his book “Sex Rebel: Black” as his “thoroughly erotic autobiography.” Davis had a sexual affair with Burroughs which, Davis explains, was included in the novel autobiography. [Read more,here.]

In the introduction to Sex Rebel, an alleged Ph.D. named Dale Gordon goes further. He describes the pseudonymous author, Bob Greene, as having “strong homosexual tendencies in his personality.”

There are those, like Rebecca Mead of The New Yorker, who say “Pop” is a “loving if slightly jaded portrait of Obama’s maternal grandfather.”

But both Jack Cashill and Neo-Neocon point out that Obama, in his memoirDreams From My Father, called Stanley Armour Dunham not “Pop” but “Gramps.”

There are other reasons pointing to Frank Marshall Davis as “Pop”:
1. “Pop” wrote poetry: Dunham was a life-long furniture salesman whose literary efforts, if any, were confined to making up dirty limericks. In contrast, Davis had written several books of poetry — Black Man’s Verse (1935), I Am the American Negro (1937), Through Sepia Eyes (1938) , 47th Street (1948) , Awakening and Other Poems (1978 ) .

2. A line in Obama’s poem “he switches channels, recites an old poem/ He wrote before his mother died” also points to Davis as “Pop”. Dunham’s mother died when he was 8 years old, whereas Davis’ mother died when he was 20 and already established as a poet of promise.

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3. In his memoir Dreams From My Father, Obama’s description of a seedy and dissipated older man named Frank is strikingly similar to “Pop” in his poem:

“…by the time I met Frank [Obama was around nine years old] he must have been pushing eighty, with a big dewlapped face and an ill-kempt gray Afro that made him look like an old, shaggy-maned lion. He would read us his poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with gramps out of an emptied jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help in composing dirty limericks. Eventually, the conservation would turn to laments about women.

“They’ll drive you to drink, boy,” Frank would tell me soberly. “And if you let ‘em, they’ll drive you into your grave.”

I was intrigued by the old Frank, with his books and whiskey breath and the hint of hard-earned knowledge behind the hooded eyes. The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn’t fully understand….”

4. Davis fits the “seedy old man” description more than Dunham:Born in 1905, Davis was 56 years older than Obama and would be 66 years old when Obama was ten. Born in 1918, Dunham was 43 years older than Obama and would be a youngish 53 years old when Obama was ten.

Here are some photos I’ve found of Stanley Armour Dunham and Frank Marshall Davis. Decide for yourself which man better fits the physical description of Pop in Obama’s poem: “dark watery eyes”; “ears that hang with heavy lobes”; “thick, oily neck”; “broad back”; “black-framed glasses”.

Whether Pop was Davis or Dunham, this much is certain: His relationship with young Obama, as the latter described it in the poem “Pop,” was creepy and disturbingly suggestive of pederasty.

~Eowyn

Dr. Eowyn is a regular contributor to The D.C. Clothesline and the Editor of Fellowship of the Minds.

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